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  • wayne j wayne j Nov 6, 2007 20:40 Flag

    Fergie agrees with Sepp Blatter

    I am not sure if he is becoming scared of Arsenal but think this is one occasion he should have thought first before he spoke.

    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/06112007/1/fergie-foreign-levy-good-idea.html

    Most clubs will object to this as it will send up the already highly inflated prices for English players.

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    • On the "we're crap cos of all the foreigners" argument I agree totally. Whilst we still seem as far away as ever of winning anything, or even playing convincing football for more than a few matches on the trot, the number of, IMHO, genuine world class players we have, has multiplied since the Premiership started. Those Englishmen who do get to play for Liverpool, Chelsea, and more commonly us, would generally walk into just about any squad on the continent. There's enough room in the squads of the 2nd tier clubs for your Dyers', Barry's and Richards'. If they arent good enough to play for Man City then they arent good enough to platy for England. I accept that it means we get shortages in some areas, especially full backs, but the benefits on the whole. especially in midfield (thanks to the above teams and none at all to Wenger), has to be good.

      The whole restriction idea is a non starter anyway, and his Fergieness is well aware of that I'm certain.
      Apart from the wind up value of pointing out that Arsenal are, by some margin it seems, the most popular club in France, the fact is that you win more, and keep your squad's integrity longer, if you have a couple of Lampards or Terrys in your team than if you are full of guys who really want to be playing for Barcelona. Which ever of the big 4 you hate most (and at least we had a season off last year ), neutrals love Arsenal the least, there's just less to identify with.

    • Ian Harris is Saha, Ronaldo, Tevez, Park, Zieler, Nani, Anderson, Giggs, O'shea, Silvestre, Pique, Vidic, Evra, Fongzuo, Van Der Sar, Evans, Cathcart, Kuszczak, Solskjaer home grown then, I think not.... rather buggers yours and Saffys argument.

      Think poor old Saffy is slowly but surely losing the plot

    • If you read SAF`s comemnts he says that fifa and uefa won`t be able to enforce any rules on a quota of home grown players because of the EU so it could only be achieved by the clubs agreeing to a voluntary system. He also goes on to say that a significant number of clubs want such a quota because they believe it is best for the game as a whole. It not just about England, big fees for home grown players has always been an important part of a small club`s income along with clauses that entitle them to a percentage of any fee should the player move on to a new club. And I for one think that the small clubs matter, football isn`t just about the premiership and its important that the small clubs are helped in as many ways as possible.

    • Jim .........I think you are forgetting the Bosman ruling, this will go the same way to, the players union will ensure of that, but I honestly think it would be a good idea to limit the amount that can be played at one time, what that limit should be I do not know.

    • Only if the club elected to leave its federation would a legal challenge be possible , but this is not going to happen. Like it or not, this change will be forced through by FIFA/EUFA.

    • This proposal is going to weaken the English League, and what for? The chance of England winning the Euro or World Cup?

    • Good point Norfolkred... which means that it would be legally challenged by certain affected clubs, such as Arsenal in the EU law courts. If this then leads to certain bodies like UEFA excluding those clubs from competitions like the CL, then there would be legal challenges for restriction of practice etc etc.

      I just don't get this argument anyway... the influx of foreigners has only been the last 10 years really. We've won f**k all since 1966!

    • Good point Norfolkred... which means that it would be legally challenged by certain affected clubs, such as Arsenal in the EU law courts. If this then leads to certain bodies like UEFA excluding those clubs from competitions like the CL, then there would be legal challenges for restriction of practice etc etc.

      I just don't get this argument anyway... the influx of foreigners has only been the last 10 years really. We've won f**k all since 1966!

    • No, The Treaty of Rome does not apply where a club is asked to abide by the rules of its federation. It always has the option of leaving its federation. Also its up to the clubs to ensure that they do not create a 'constraint of trade' situation by emplying players who cannot play.
      You can be confident that both FIFA and EUFA employ good legal advisors well versed in EU Employment legislation.

    • so if man utd had say 2 english players..would fergie still agree to it..i doubt it..mind you,, i do agree myself,, we should have at leat 5 english players in every team in the premiership playing demestic and european games. but this should happen within the next 3 years.

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