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Evra and Vidic do get stuck in, but you seem to have forgotten about the likes of Gerrad, Terry, Ballack and Bendtner.
Gerrard and Ballack are cheats, they aint dirty, Vidic is all elbows, forearms and blocks, Vidic is a dirty player that needs snapping.
Oh, FFS Barry, what are you on about? You are making a right dick of yourself or are you just trying to impress your NZ friends? They must be laughing at you, as we are.
All defenders do that, not that that makes it right, look I know your upset that Arsenal lost, but your a bit blinkered because of that, take a look over the season and your certain to see worse than Vidic, from forwards as well as defenders.