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'Where are you Stefan?'
You are very predictable Jim. I was fortunate enough to see 4 minutes of the match (33-37) which included Welbeck's excellent goal, and was thus predicting a snarky post. Thereafter, as it *is* a Saturday night, I was out enjoying life, and have only just gotten in. I'm very flattered that you were anxiously awaiting a riposte, but really, surely you have better things to do than sitting behind a computer screen all evening to score cheap points against a stranger on a football message board?
Moving on, from what I've heard from my friends who had been watching the match in the pub, England were dull as dishwater and as awful as ever in possession, while Belgium were far more fluent, yet were playing in a strikerless formation and completely lacked penetration.
It's a shame you're now in the habit of judging players on inconsistent criteria (either exclusively on league form, or international football, depending on what suits your 'arguments'), as well as single matches. Not long ago, during one of your irrational, anti-Barca ('they take drugs!!!!!!!') tirades, you were saying that one could not really laud the Barca players for their achievements in international football which they were at the heart of, because club and international football are too different. Now you're choosing to ignore everything that the 21 and a half year old Hazard has done at club level, and conveniently focussing on his play in a young national side with unstable management.
With regards to a good match Messi had last year in the C.America you stated: 'He made 2 decent passes and he was 'great', give me a break!'. You're now wetting your pants in excitement over a clearly excellent goal by Welbeck, using this as evidence that he is a world-beater, the second coming of 'ZZ', one of the greatest players of all time, who didn't even play in the same position. A good chip doesn't make Danny Welbeck the second coming of Zizou, just as it didn't make Michael Owen the next Gerd Muller or Wayne Rooney the next Ronaldinho Gaucho.
Before you start your nonsense again about how I want Welbeck to fail, perhaps you'll remember that I've been singing his praises all season, while noting that there are clear areas where he can improve, namely not falling over his feet and improving his coordination, which will come when he's fully grown. As for which player I would rather have, given who we already have in our squad (Nani, Valencia, Young), and their respective characters and nationalities, I'd choose Welbeck. Who is the better talent - for most sane and rational observers who are strong enough not to be swayed by club loyalties, given the relative trajectory of their careers so far, and the abilities that both have shown, Hazard would be the clear choice. This may change in time. I don't know the future - unlike you, I'm not a fortune teller and I don't have your special brand of 'knowledge'. I've said my piece now Jim. We disagree. Change the record.
So Hazard is 'clearly' better than Welbeck, leaving all club loyalties on one side, Stefan? I suspect you know very little about football at all, and I also suspect you are far more interested in your own 'ego' than supporting any club.
Posting at 3.51am, Stefan.
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Also Jim, I expect your be writing to Fergie, to city and all the others who were willing to pay so much for Hazard and had been chasing him, telling them they should have been trying to sell welbeck for that money, as hazard is not better than welbeck.
Obviously it won't be long before your one of the biggest experts in football, as all those people believed Hazard was worth it, and none have been talking about Welbeck in that way. What stupid people they are.
" I suspect you know very little about football at all"
a bit rich coming from the poster who labelled cristiano ronaldo and ferdinand as " a bunch of lesser lights".
Gosh, storming headache aside, I'm rather pleased with that post! I may try writing under the influence more often, especially if it shuts good old 'Jim W' up so effectively. As expected, no logical responses to your exposed hypocrisy Jim, just the usual unsubstantiated suppositions and polite insults. You've spent all week chasing me around on this board like a demented poodle, based on a small point of disagreement. To accuse me of knowing very little about football and of being an egomaniac is beyond laughable when a) you make the most ridiculous pronouncements, often written in riddles ( you are oh so clever!) and b) these change on a weekly basis dependent on the argument you want to win in order massage your own huge ego!
I won't be replying to this again Jim, I'll let *you* have the last word - I know your ego otherwise wouldn't be able to handle it.