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  • ping pong ping pong Jul 1, 2009 18:24 Flag

    murray & the hype surrounding wimbledon generally

    average player who crumples at the 1st sign of real competition - sounds familiar doesn't it.to the english out there, he doesn't like you.remember the comments about english football, etc,etc.more importantly, and the national boundaries thing aside, it is an example of an elitist sport that pumps more money into grass roots than the f.a. does for football (proportionately), yet still fails to achieve its goal of producing quality players.it is, and always will be a predominately m/class pursuit with a distinct lack of drive or commitment to achieving real top-flight success.maybe you'll get more success and return from the working classes, a drive to win palpably lacking from our past & current crop of m/class whingers.dismantle the elitist & snob ridden hierarchy, personified by wimbledon, that exist in tennis and you may get somewhere.good luck though

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    • what tosh
      he was outplayed by roddick as was fedderer himself for parts of the final which came down to a few points in the end!!
      he found a way to win a 5 set match by digging deep and then came out and beat a former world number 1 in 3 sets
      I think you are talking utter tripe

    • I have to ask are you perhaps English and just bitter that us Scots have managed to produce a superior tennis player than England has. This is just one tournament amongst many. Look at his track record he has done us proud. I find it an insult to Roddick! Murray did not play badly Roddick was on fire and deserved to win on Friday. Murray has plenty to give both Scotland and Britain where are the English players at the same standard.

    • I have to ask are you perhaps English and just bitter that us Scots have managed to produce a superior tennis player than England has. This is just one tournament amongst many. Look at his track record he has done us proud. I find it an insult to Roddick! Murray did not play badly Roddick was on fire and deserved to win on Friday. Murray has plenty to give both Scotland and Britain where are the English players at the same standard.

    • Murray was indirectly buried under hope,hype and money very too soon before even the championships OR was he just inexperienced and timid. We have to wait till 2010 to know what happened in 2009!!
      The peoples champion could not be the wimbledon champion. Someday it will

    • maybe you should check the atrocious wages and costs of football players in this country,if i was a tennis player id be pieved at footballers,they get paid hundreds of thousands just to sit on a bench or play football for 90 minutes,cant even call football british premier league these days,who ever has the most money then they bring expensive players in under cutting our true stars.give murray a break.

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      • fully aware of wages in the premier league, as well as the lower leagues.not actually interested in that or see the relevance.the reference to the F.A. was used primarily to display the acute disparity that exists in grassroot junior funding of tennis and that in football, and the disproportionate amount of success the latter has over the former with regards to allowing real talent to flourish from more impoverished areas.in addition to this the F.A. was used comparatively because it happens to be the most powerful sporting cartel in the country, but spends less proportionately than the L.T.A.if this was addressed then maybe fortunes may change for british tennis players.

    • Unfortunately all sport is ecpensive, I can't say about tennis becuase I have no experience, but in swimming from about ages 12-20 it cost aprox £100 a month (about five years ago, so has prob gone up), that is just for the club and excludes the cost of traning equipment and travel costs, ofcourse this cost will increase when they decide to go pro and get individual coaching etc.

      In squash a good coach (which is what is needed to be at the top level) will cost between £20 - £35 pounds for an 45min/hour session (usualy about once a week), this also excludes the cost of rackets (£70-£200) and the cost of restringing, court costs for practice and games (£2-6) and ofcourse on top of this is re-stringing rackets, clothing, travel costs etc.

      The simple fact is to be good at any sport, you need coaching and all of the costs add up, meaning that for a working class child to grow up to be good at a sport the parents have to make a decision that it is what they really want and sacrifice to make it, that is why there are more middle class top players than working class

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      • that is why the L.T.A. have to revaluate their priorities with regards to funding, because the present situation is laughable.the idea that these monies are going to trickle down to the w/classes simply isn't happening, thus subsidy for those who need it doesn't appear, pricing less affluent children out of the game.ironically it's those more affluent who can afford the initial expense to participate in junior tennis are those who go on to benefit later from the L.T.A programmes.make the initial steps easier financially for those who need the help, and attract a more diverse player base