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I seem to have stirred up a debate on whether or not Jenas is good enough to play for Spurs. IMHO being able to run all day with no other discernable talent is not good enough and on that basis he should be off loaded. The Geordies were of the same opinion and they were not unhappy when they sold him.
So.....I would be interested in knowing what the general view of posters on here is. Should we keep him on the basis that he is a good player for Spurs and he is going to help us become a PL Champions contender OR should we be looking to replace him with someone better?
No fence sitters please!
i have been out in the wilderness ....the computer ent down in a fit of pique and sulked for 7 days....the computer doctor had to come and make him better....anyways i say get rid....we have made a habit recenntly of buying players that are not up to our high standards....either because of financial restraints or ill-judgement....and it has shown in the league position'...
you rarely win The Derby with a milkmans horse!.....as i said ....we need quality....and we ain't got ot in certain positions
....sorry jermaine ...but on your bike!!!!
Thank God we are getting back on friendlier ground! Can't disagree with much there Old Fan except I am very definately a "Jenas out" man. Apart from that you are making very fair points mate.
How great is it that we are talking the way we are when it could of course, only a few weks ago, have been so very different. I wanted Ramos out ASAP and I was very glad it was "Arry that came in (even though I wasn't expecting it as it came out of left field) so I am just glad it has worked out for the best otherwise I would probably not be posting on here anymore through embarrassment!
nbr - I would be happy to sell pasties mate if it got me nearer the pitch!!
..spot on..and isn't that the problem of all top club managers? To compete in 4 competitions each season, you must at least have a squad in the 20s - plus the players 'coming through'. And (never start a sentence with a preposition) isn't that what every top class player now expects? How many of the top players are guaranteed a start? Maybe one or two in a team?
If you look at what Wenger does (and I think this is a better way) - he seems to run with a leaner first team squad (and I say seems before someone hits me with a stat saying their squad is 40 strong), and then gives his 'up and coming players' a good run out in the secondary competitions. That seems to keep them all happy - and appears to have kept him with a perpetual 'emerging' team.
Tarrabt's performance at QPR and Gio's performance at Ipswich are IMHO (had to get one in) testament to 'arry's management. They are both getting time that they would not get at Spurs, and getting a chance to show their stuff, get match fit, and play their way into being retained for next season and given a serious chance at playing for the club. The same could be said for the other youngsters that 'arry has out on loan. AEB is definitely earning his keep, and it's apparent that he (like many players) simply needed an extended run in the team to find his fit, regain some confidence, and provide his worth (another example of why getting the youngsters out playing regular 'ball on loan). Keep Bale - as others have pointed out he's only 19, does have the talent, and can only get better with good coaching (think back to all those who wanted to dump Lennon not so long ago!).
I love the Hudd, but at times he does look lazy, and he's not the quickest. No doubting his ability, no doubting his skill and vision, but (and again, this isn't original, I've read this on the board before) for a man of his size, he should be putting himself out and about in the midfield and dominating. I'd give him one more season with the directive to demonstrate a little more dominance.
Then there's Jenas - my preference would be to sit on the fence - but the thread started with a request not to do that, so... I'd keep him .... for now. He does do a lot off the ball, when he shows up in the game, he does have an impact, he does have a great engine, I do believe he is a club man. As with Hudd, I'd tell him that he has to show consistency or he'll be shopped next January.
Last but not least - I think I'd have to get rid of Bently - I realize that he has talent, I'm sure that he will find a place where he shines and we might regret getting rid of him - but apart from one stunning goal, has hasn't done ess, aitch, eye, tea (thanks Roger) since joining the club.
And just for completeness - I'd keep O'Hara - no doubt in my mind!
The problem with all of this, is that if all of the players are kept how the hell do you keep:
Lennon, Modric, Palacios, Jenas, O'hara, Tarrabt, Dos Santos, Hudd...
...all happy and getting some playing time - no one likes sitting on the bench, everyone plays better when they get an extended run in the team .... that is 'arry's problem.
If you're good and agree with everything I say for the next six months I'll see what I can do about getting you a job selling pasties in the stands, you can't say fairer than that!
Oh God I hope you are wrong John - I think nbr has the hump with me!! He is one of the "keep Jenas" two that voted and I have been quite strong in my views about how useless he is! Jenas that is of course not NBR!)
Oh well - you can't win em all.
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Up until now, I have not voted one way or the other in this issue - and I am not going to do so now.
When JJ first signed for us from Newcastle he was touted as being the kind of player to replace Michael Carrick - it never quite worked out for him in the way that was hoped.
There will invariably be a few departures in the Summer - players that have out-lived their use for the club. I think Jenas will be one of those players who will be on his way, along with Tommy Hudd, GDS, Taarabt & Bale.
Will I miss him playing for Spurs? I don't honestly know! I guess I will just have to wait and see.
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