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Who says harry is an un-justified winner of manager of the year? Just stumbled across this on wiki pedia and i think it shows what an excellent job hes doing;
Top 20 managers of the club's history
Based on win % in all competitions
Manager Years Played Won Win %
1 Frank Brettell 1898–1899 63 37 58.73
2 Arthur Turner 1942–1946 49 27 55.10
3 Harry Redknapp 2008–Present 92 48 52.17
4 John Cameron 1899–1907 570 296 51.93
5 David Pleat 1 1986–1987 119 60 50.42
6 Bill Nicholson 1958–1974 832 408 49.03
7 Arthur Rowe 1949–1955 283 135 47.70
8 Fred Kirkham 1907–1908 61 29 47.54
9 Jimmy Anderson 2 1955–1958 161 75 46.58
10 Percy Smith 1929–1935 253 109 46.38
Dont know is thats gunna be overly readable, but its basically saying hes currently third for win percentage in tottenams managerial history! The best thing i can deduct from this, however is tat he is the best in my life time! (granted i was only born in 1989 but still ) Anyway dont know if this has been shown before, just thought id share :)
o and heres Jol's; (12th)
12 Martin Jol 3 2004–2007 150 67 44.67
...ahhhhhhhh, but stats.....
I'm glad 'arry is up there and hope he can continue with the run - but if you look at the top 3 and add up all their games played, you only get half the games of the 4th placed. I think its a bit early to judge as yet. Give 'arry another season (IMHO all managers and players should be judged after a min two seasons)
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Harry deserves the plaudits for getting you into the CL ahead of the £M's spent by City. Lets hope for your sakes, he doesn't take this as a sign to go out and spend loads more on players that don't add to your team, and wage bill. He's got a nasty habit of ruining the finances of clubs.
Just because Harry is a justified manager of the year when compared to Spurs managers of yesteryear doesn't mean he is a justified manager of the year when compared to every other manager in the Prem today surely?
Also your "top 20" consists of...well.......ten.
Wenger was far more deserving of the manager of the year tag IMO.
Nick, I see what you're trying to say, but the way your trying to say it is wrong. If you compared HR's win percentage against managers of other clubs and he stood tall, then that would have made more sense. But even against other Spurs managers that comparison pales...92 games...c'mon mate...Billy Nick's 408 games with practically half of them won is a far superior stat (then throw in championships and other trophies and you'll know why the man was and still is revered among the Lilywhite legions).
Now, does Harry deserve Manager of the Year more than say Roy Hodgson...maybe not, but you've got to pick one haven't ya (smiles).
Fab...they don't give out awards for chucking the championship away my son...(alright, maybe not my son, but...). Given he's had injuries in his squad, but he was in with a shout with the (on paper) easier of run ins vs your two rivals...and in the end you just pipped us for 3rd...no, partisanship aside, Wenger could never win that accolade. (imho)
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To me it's give credit where credit's due. Wenger has deserved to be manager of the year on previous performances - but not this year at all.
If I had to vote, I'd always go for someone who made something from 'less' - ie the Moyes's and Hodgson's of this world. As their achievements are surely 'greater'? I think I would have gone for Hodgson this year - if he pulls of a win this week, then he's had an amazing couple of seasons.
'arry must have something though, as he's done for Spurs what no other manager has managed for years.
AND (this galls me to say this) - I think Levy has done well in what he's allowed the managers to spend over the past few while still keeping the club viable.
Hey John - I considered responding to one of your wind up posts in another thread - with the idea that I would point out that you are a moron that doesn't have a fucking clue about football, but thought that it would be redundant as it was obvious from your post.
So do us all a favor and piss off back to whatever board can put up with you. There are a number of gooners that do post on this board and are welcome as they can actually make some intelligent posts - then there are the typical numbnuts bicycle seat sniffers like yourself (you even look like one in your picture mate ....) - complete planks, dumb as a bucket of rocks, with head firmly implanted up the arse.
SO at the risk of repeating myself - piss off and go back to playing with your inflatable!
We have been without King, Woodgate, Dawson, Ecotto, Bale, Modric, Huddlestone, Lennon, Corluka, Hutton, Keane(but that was while he was on the pitch), Ohara, Defoe., so not much in that.
The big difference is that Rednapp as only had a season and a half, whereas Whinger has been at Arsenal forever.........NO CONTEST!
I'll concede he has achieved more than HR, but not this season.
And Harry takes defeat graciously, whereas Whinger is as poor a loser as you can get, despicable little fucker as far as I'm concerned.
Not making excuses at all Sfer i believe i am right and merely arguing with reasons.
I'll give you the point on 'crucial' (grudgingly but given nevertheless).
I have listed our injuries further down the thread and though i agree United suffered too i will argue they did not suffer as we did and not for anywhere near as long a period. We had to play Arshavin alone upfront dont forget because we didn't have a fit striker for example.
I think Vermalean will prove me right next season so we'll have to wait and see i guess.
I regret far more the mistakes of our GK's than any misses by Bendtnar. Nicklas won us a fair share of games Sfer and my mind is changed regarding his potential.
Wenger didnt complain when we were thrashing Blackburn etc when we had the benefit of a reasonably injury free team to call upon. Teams do turn up to 'kick' Arsenal at times though and he is withing his rights to complain. Ferguson has also complained about teams doing this to United dont forget.
I think we very much lived up to our billing Sfer. In fact i think we surpassed it.
Injuries stopped us lifting the title IMO. The likes of which we have never suffered before. This team has scored MORE goals than the 'invincibles' and done so without strikers to call upon for a large part of the season and certainly without our 'Henry' in Van Persie.
Every team has had injuries but its the longevity of those injuries and the amount coinciding that i point to and also the importance of those players to the team.
I concede on the time spent at each club by each manager.
(Wenger won the title his first full season at Arsenal by the way).
Wenger is a bad loser but i wouldn't want a good loser in charge and i think people tend to overplay his remarks and anyway his opinion is spoken with more volume in the media than that of most managers.
You didn't reply, because you didn't have one. Lets face it. Instead you come out with the usual insults and Bushisms like "Dumb as a bucket of rocks". You might be able to insult a redneck from Oregon with that, but not an Englishman.
This board needs good old Galway Mike back, to add a bit of good spirit and educated argument.
Just google 'team' +injuries for any of the EPL teams.
'Critical' Injuries - Pool would point to injuries with Benyoun, Torres, Gerrard... Utd to Ferdinand, Rooney (and the whole of their defence back in Dec).
BUT isurely it's not the volume of injuries that gives you MoS? Yep, you lot did well with the problems you had - and I personally think that you'd have been pressing for the title had you had a full squad for more of the season - but Pool would argue they would have got 4th and Utd would claim the title. And then Avram Grant would have to have got MoS - simply for getting to the FA cup final with his injuries.
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