Here goes. I hate typing, but I've got to do it, so I'll try and keep this brief for us, Fab. Firstly the genius from Harlow was a great player from the first day he played first team football for us and remained so right up to his last game! How on earth can you give Wenger the credit for Glenn Hoddle?? That is just fanaticism! And yes Hod is complimentary about Wenger, but that's the type of guy he is. Now Jimmy Greaves. Is nothing sacred to you? OK he enjoyed a drink and a smoke, but he wouldn't have needed too much pace to sit Vermaleon (sorry,unsure of spelling,can't be arsed to check) on his butt, just a shimmy and a drop of the shoulder. I saw him wreck defences time after time, and that in the days when tackling was allowed! He would thrive in today's game, as would many other flare players of the time. They had to learn to deal with being slide-tackled, charged and caught from behind. Had to deal with players Like Peter Storey, Ron Harris, Norman Hunter and Tommy Smith, all players who would be regarded as thugs by Wenger, but in those days they were regarded as tough defenders and part of a very exciting and entertaining sport. Players like Fabregas and Ronaldo and their Ilk would have gone home crying after four or five games. Not so Jimmy or any other great players of the day. They were skilful enough to make them look silly on occasion. Now, we're expected to appreciate Wenger's sterile, joyless brand of football, and probably eat snails instead of roast beef as well. Well non, merci. Uneducated about football and Wenger's style? Yes, mate. Because football is a recreation for me, not a degree course, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Just out of interest, and I could well be wrong on this point, but I don't recall Wenger coming out and saying anything about the Dutch "thuggery" in the World Cup Final. Is that because RVP was one of those thugs? Or maybe because they're Dutch and not English? And tell me about George Graham....one of the loudest chants I've ever heard at the Lane is "We want Graham out!" He was out ot wreck a LONG, LONG tradition of playing football the way Spurs fans and neutrals adored. Wenger? Small change.