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  • I'm not sure.
    But, hey, I wasn't sure about 'arry either. So, I'll reserve judgement on him till after a couple of seasons.
    Hope he does well.

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    • AVB = Perfect fit for Spurs, imo.

      He will hate Chelsea just like the next Spurs fan on the line, maybe 'hate' isn't the right word and too strong in this context but what you would get with this appointment is he would always want to get one over Chelsea because of the way he was hounded out of SB.

      Chuck in the fact that it is Chelsea who denied Spurs a place in the coming season's CL, and the bad blood between the two sets of fans start making more sense to outside observers.

    • I'm just not sure that I understand all the hype that appears to surround him.

      He's been in management, what, under 4 years? OK, he had one heck of a time at Porto, but then had a nightmare at the Chavs (although you could argue that that was largely down to the players - but if so, what is a manager for?).

      That's my concern. He could have been a flash in the pan.

      But I suppose I've seen enough managers look good at one club to then fail elsewhere to know that even experienced managers also fail. Time and tide I suppose. Hopefully, this will be Snakehouse's time to shine - and catch that wave.

    • LTS,
      Can you give me a ref of where 'arry was actually offered a contract? And/or then rejected it?

      I've read through umpteen articles around Feb/March and it appears that most are based on the same '...Spurs are planning to offer 'arry a contract...' bit. Some appear to twist that and do the usual '...Spurs Offer 'Arry 3 Years'....but still have the same detail - and most admit that at the time Levy was in Florida.
      I then see 'arry responding to questions about the 'alleged' new contract and simply saying (and I paraphrase) '...I'd be happy to discuss a new contract but one hasn't been offered. It will happen when it happens, I'm not chasing it. Levy seems to want me to stay...'.
      Have you got anything that quotes Spurs, 'arry or anyone apart from a tabloid hack that actually says that 'arry was offered a contract and that he rejected it?

    • fab, u are forgetting he went to the media to try to get a contract extension & put pressure on the club to give him 1.

      i would have hoped by now he could deal with the club directly without blabbering to the media.

    • How do you work that out Fab?
      If an employee of mine was to go courting several other jobs whilst still uunder contract to me I would think that very disloyal and therefore dis-respectful!
      As for another year, he had that left on his existing contract. Apparently he was offered a new contract before the England position was open and refused it. Then when the job w ent to Roy Hodgson he goes blabbing to the press about it's wrong to only have one year left on a manager's contract. You wouldn't do that with a player blah de bloody blah. How is that respectful, especially when the chairman had just lost his mother.

    • fab, u are forgetting he want to the media to try to get a contract extension & put pressure on the club to give him 1.

      i would have hoped by now he could deal with the club directly without blabbering to the media.

    • Fab,
      We all have our different ideas as to why he was sacked - I still think that the main reason was that his player policy wasn't what Levy et al wanted. The Levy current comment re AVB emphasises bringing youth on - that I think is where 'arry's clashed. 'Arry 'seemed' to build teams on players who fitted or fixed a problem, rather than planning a team for 'n' years hence. Gallas did really well for us, Parker is/has done the same, Ade, Nielsen, Bassong, Saha .... players who came in to fix a problem rather than being necessarily 'future'. However, that is a guess, as 'arry'd transfer policy may have been limited by financial issues anyway, so what I'm basing my opinion on (ie the transfers in) may just have been a symptom of other club issues.

      I think the England episode/post Christmas results were just a catalyst - both giving 'excuses' that could be seen as possible reasons for sacking him.

      Was the Special One all that Special? I'd love to see be able to switch managers round and give say SAF Bournemouth to manage for a couple of seasons - and give someone like Poyet Utd etc. The Special One to Hartlepool.
      I also think that 'arry was partially right about how the game is played - it's a simple game - if you have a squad of players who 'know' how to play, then the manager's involvement is small. Imparting a style, getting the balance of the team and players right. Blending personalities and playing styles.

    • My thoughts entirely John.

      I always thought Harry was extremely loyal and spoke of nothing but how fortunate and happy he was to be at Spurs.
      I can't understand this 'disrespectful' argument.

      I also think that given chance and backing Harry may well have won some real silverware with Spurs and done that whilst producing a great style of football.

    • LTS,
      What 'several other jobs'? And I'll you as I did Sfer/SB - give me quotes where he 'courted' anything - when the man wasn't replying to something asked of him.
      I'll also repeat, that 'arry said about the England job years ago. It wasn't new. So, wasn't he disrespectful then? Didn't Hodgson say the same?
      Didn't Moyes already say that he'd like to manage Scotland? Would you then have had him as manager of Spurs?

      Can you tell what the terms of the contract were that 'arry turned down?

    • Interesting thoughts on the real reasons behind Harrys dismissal John and you could well be correct. Makes for a sound reason from what i can tell.

      As for the 'Special one' being that special, i'm with you there too! Wasn't it Wenger who made a comment somewhere along the lines of ' anyone can produce a great team when given £100m!'.

      I have made the point about Fergusons supposed 'greatness' many times elsewhere on these boards John. To my mind EVERY time Ferguson has had to compete with a club on near level ground with regards to funding he has lost out!

      Think Arsenal when Wenger arrived, Chelsea first two seasons under Mourinho (before Abramovich started poking his nose in third sesason) and now the City situation.

      IMO a huge amount of Fergusons achievments have been largely down to extremely fortunate circumstances regarding the competition he had to face, Chelsea and their overactive owner, Arsenal and their stadium move and yes, injuries and departures in recent seasons.

      When Ferguson could walk out and buy the best players is it little wonder that he built great teams and won silverware?

      Not to my mind.

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