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" It took RVP years to get to the goal level he did at Ar$e and it is very unusual for anyone to arrive in the PL and hit the ground running."???
Try these two signings who 'hit the ground running' recently, sfer.
- made his English Premier League debut on 5th February 2012 for Newcastle United, scored 13 goals in 14 appearances for them.
- made his English Premier League debut on 6th February 2011 for West Ham United, scored 7 goals in 11 league matches for WHU. ''Ba was voted as the best signing of the 2011–12 season by Premier League managers in March 2012.'' [Reference Wikipedia].
I didn't have to try hard to dig up these two signings, I'm pretty sure there are other gems if I have the time to do a proper research.
Btw, I didn't bother reading the rest of your post as I'm convinced it's bollox just like the above comments from you.
OOooooooooohhhhhh! hit a nerve eh. Reading about all the trouble at the Board and getting worried eh JeeRoo?
So you found 2 examples. It wouldn't take much to find plenty of examples that prove exactly the opposite - moron. And by the way, you didn't argue that RVP did not make an instant success (you just struggled with the other 2) so once again that proves my point.
Fab - you are sounding desperate mate and you are becoming a minority in your misjudged loyalty to Whinger. The Ar$e fans I know either want him out or at the very least now do not have the confidence in him they did once.
As I said, I am not saying Spurs will definitely win anything next year, that depends on so many other things such as how well AVB does, who he buys, how much money he has to spend etc BUT I really do not know where your spectacular confidence comes from.
Everybody knows Ar$e only got where they did because of one man - RVP - and without him you would have been mid table. Now he is going and open warfare has broken out at Ar$e. I see now the second largest share holders have come out and said so as well. Surely you have to agree that these men know much better than you what is going on at the club. They attend shareholders meetings don't they FFS.
C'mon Fab. Your loyalty is touching it really is but you are setting yourself up for an almighty fall. The odds against Ar$e doing anything great next year (like actually winning anything) is getting more and more remote as the days go by.
Whinger built a great team a few years ago and they played some great football - I have admitted that many times - but NO ONE could say this current squad is great especially not now with RVP going. The problem is two fold. Whinger still beleives he can build a great team without spending any money and his self belief in his own talents is staggeringly arrogant which means he thinks he can do no wrong.
Oh and Arteta or Parker???? Only one choice there mate and it would be the one that gets a game for his national side. And I didn't say Whinger "bought" Carlton Palmer. I was using him as an example of why, just because someone is an "international" that does not make them a great player like you are intimating with Giroud and Poldolski.
Keep em coming Fab. The more you post in defence of Ar$e and Whinger the more desperate you sound.
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Sfer, my 'confidence' stems from one source, that being the fact that Wenger has produced year in year out.
Parker and Arteta and international appearances?
Cmon Sfer, that's almost as bad as your Palmer example.
England are no Spain FFS!
Only reason Arsenal got CL is Van Persie?
Van Persie played a part. Where was he every other year Arsenal qualified for CL football?
My 'misjudged loyalty to Wenger'?
Even Usmanov went out of his way to praise Wenger in his statement yesterday. As has just about every player and person linked with the truly great man (including Van Persie in his statement BTW).
Best to ignore that though eh.
I'm certainly not 'desperate' in any way shape or form Sfer.
Think what you will.
I know some Spurs fans wish with every ounce of their being that Arsenal fail in all they do. It's natural. It certainly clouds their judgement though.
be fair fab, we were awful that game. carlton palmer could have scored a brace against us.
no matter how examples u come u with fab, overall theo has been very inconsistant. he has by far more bad games than he has good. but if u want to keep deluding yourself then thats up to u!
"So you found 2 examples. "
No, as I said early, there are plenty more examples out there if you bother to look but the ones I noted are recent signings. Here's another - Aguero.
Signed by City and delivered the goods in his debut season.
Btw, RVP was inexperienced and still young when Arsenal signed him, Poldoski and Giroud aren't. Both Poldoski and Giroud are at a stage in their careers where they are expected to need less acclimatisation time due to their age and experience. If you had argued that Joel Campbell would need more time when he arrives at Arsenal before hitting the ground running, that would have been a reasonable assertion to make and understandably.