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  • Charlie Charlie Sep 3, 2012 08:12 Flag

    Mid Table Mediocrity

    just when it was getting fun, you will be back to finishing mid table again>

    Essex boy lets bet now?

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    • You didn't ask for it, but here's my 2 pence.

      The goons defence has looked a lot more stable than last season, Maybe Steve Bould has worked some magic? I agree with the overall sentiment of Sfers point, I think your defence weaker is than it 'should' be, for what you expect to achieve (title challenge? top 4?)

      Despite losing Song, I think your midfield is stronger, especially as Wilshire looks to be returning and Diaby 'could' be like a new signing- He looked impressive against Liverpoo, but lets not get carried away, Liverpoo were poor.

      RVP will be sorely missed, you can't lose a player like that and expect no consequence, Poldi and Giroud are not of the same standard IMO, but who is?

      Goons done!

      Sfer, I'm surprised you see Gylfi, Lloris, Vertonghen and Dempsey as average, its just opinion, but I see all four as good signings that will be major parts of our first team squad. None are the calibre of Luka, but replacing him with the same quality (Moutinho) was always going to be exceedingly difficult due to budgetary restrictions and Levy having deep pockets and tiny little arms.

      I had accepted we'd lose Luka, Dembele is a decent replacement IMO. I always rated VDV as a footballer, but as you rightly pointed out, he was a difficult player to involve, he completely changed the shape of our team. If Gylfi and Dempsey are seen as his replacement, then I think both will better suit our needs.

      Learning to play without Luka will take time, which IMO we must give AVB.


      Citeh, Chavs, Manure will be battling for 1-2-3,

      Spurs, Goons, Newcastle, will battle for 4-5-6,

      Liverpool, Everton for 7-8, although I see a number of teams that could quiet easily compete for 6-7-8 positions.

      Injuries will always have an impact, but all teams have to contend with that and good planning and management can help to reduce the impact they (injuries) may have IMO.


    • Fair enough, I don't blame you. I would not like to bet on where Spurs will finish either.

      Luck, injuries and confidence will determine where all teams finish the same as it does every season. Personally I think you are trying very hard to gloss over the deep sense of hurt that the loss of Fab, RVP, Nasri and Song have had. Some Spurs fans are doing the same about Modric. No team can lose players like that and be the same as they were before.

      If we are lucky some of those that have come in will eventually be as good but that takes time. The ones we have brought in are known to us and we know what to expect. I like Dembele and he should do well but the others are average IMO .Its when you sign someone no one knows much about from some average foreign league or team and they turn out to be a genius - thats when you get excited.

      I still think you are weaker at CB than you need to be to be top 4 and you still have not sorted the goalkeeper position out. Without RVP you are definitely weaker up front. MF is debateable but I will give you the benefit of the doubt on that. Only time will tell of course and if I am wrong I will gladly hold my hands up.

    • What you have to bare in mind Sfer is that Arsenal started terribly and basically, finished terribly last season. The now traditional terrible injury list raised its head on occasions and key players moved on. New players had no pre-season.

      This time Arsenal are seemingly more settled, even with VP having left, followed by Song. Arsenal relied too heavily on VP for goals last season. That was not good. I think the goals will come, but from more than one member of staff this season.

      The season, as always, and as with every club, depends largely on injuries and confidence. If those two factors favour Arsenal, then anything is possible IMO.

      I never bet on Arsenal Sfer and never predict too heavily, just a tadd superstitious you see and i have no wish to put the kibosh on things (oh yes, the whole fortune of Arsenals season rests upon what i do and say, especially on match days!How sad!).

      Suffice to say i am quietly confident and have Wengers record of top four finish, CL qualification to bolster my confidence.

    • 2 goals do not a trophy make - t0sser. A win against Pool and you think all is well at La Emirates. Let see where the Ar$e are at the end of the season eh.