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  • Sfer Sfer Nov 5, 2012 15:25 Flag

    defensive midfielders??

    If we can/could spare him in defence, I wouldn't mind seeing Vertghogen in a holding MF role. He seems comfortable on the ball and bringing it out of defence and he obviously knows his defending responsibilities.

    If Hudd is not a holding MF, what FFS exactly is his position/qualities?? Does he set up goal chances for fun, score goals like a Lampard, track back and help the defence or tackle like a Roy Keane? errrr nope. None of the above so what the f%$k is he doing on the park.

    What he does is jog around slowly just in front of the back 4 taking 5 yard passes and passing the ball back the centre halfs of full backs. Occasionally he hits a 40 or 50 yard ball across the pitch in an attempt to find the winger but 4 out 5 of these attempts gets cut out thus starting an attack for the opposition. He does not head the ball at all and he is awful at tackling with many of these resulting in free kicks which again puts us under pressure. Occasionally, in an effort to make it look like he is a tough MF enforcer, he lashes out at some unsuspecting player which results in a yellow card. He does not track the oppositions attacking MF's because he is either too slow or can't be bothered.

    All in all, he is a big useless lump who just takes up space in the team. IMHO of course.

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    • God it's kinda sad to read that Sfer...he's one of those players I want to like and appreciate, but you're right, his game hasn't come on, and what exactly is it he does? put like you did, it's clear the answer is very little...we can get away with him as a luxury in an attacking flowing typical successsful Spurs style of game, but when things get tough, he is a liability...
      he's almost Jenas light

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      • T'Hudd's the sort of player that split opinion amongst supporters.
        I'm not sure he's as bad as the nay sayers seem to think - if he was, I honestly don't follow why Jol, Redknapp and now AVB would play him.
        I don't think he's been on sparkling form this season, but given the way the team is playing in general, at least he has the excuse of coming back from injury.
        To me the problem this season, and I think this was pointed out after the first couple of games, is that it appears with Daffy playing as the lone striker, we tend to play narrower to get the wide players closer to him, rather than relying on balls into the box.
        For a player who plays 'with' the ball - ie moves with the ball, that poses a slight problem, but for T'Hudd it's a different issue. He then misses both a strike target and wide targets.

        Maybe with AVBs alleged (has it been that different?) style of pressing play (compressed play doesn't lend itself to the 'quarter back' style IMO), T'Hudd will become obsolete. Be interesting to see what changes happen, if any, if and when Ade gets a longer run in the team. I would hope that we will see a 'wider' game.

        Someone looked at T'Hudds stats a year or so back - interesting:

    • Sadly I think your assessment of Hudds is spot on,

      He can pass the ball, but often he is a little over ambitious. I guess he is supposed to be a deep-lying creative midfielder.

      Jan Vertonghen is fully capable of playing the holding role. I'd start Naughton at LB, Daws and Caulker at CB. My biggest concern is who to play next to Vertonghen in CM! we have no quality options left. I can't see Gylfi or Dempsey being able to play there, Hudds isn't good enough and IMO Tom Carroll isn't ready, all other options are injured.

      I hate slagging Spurs players, but I cannot defend Hudds, he's mid-table quality at best.