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  • john john Dec 14, 2012 13:45 Flag

    Late Goals

    I think you are quite right to take an element of all the " reasons " you have listed as to the probable cause for our performances to date nbr I personally think no2 is the largest factor this season, combined with the " right position " point in no3 in most game's so far played.

    SB, I dont see where you got the impression that " I dont think we have problems from ", because I can see many problems from board level to coaching/player level. I just dont solely put it down to AVBs tactics and subs, and his supposed instructions to sit deep and be " ultra " defensive as you put it. I dont know because i'm not privvy to hear his team talks, although pretty much all teams in the PL will sit on a slender lead especially in close fought games, so I dont see why we shouldnt be expected to do the same, ( we're just not good at it ) but I think he is trying to instill a more resillient edge to the team. Some are putting it all down to the manager and have from day one, whereas like nbr I see other possibillities than to simplify it all down to bad management, which you must admit doe's come across as your biggest arguement to our performances. I remember one of my first post's on here when you said I was " deluded " and maybe I still am, but not to the extent of thinking we should automatically be top 4 with this squad as some pundit's seem to think.

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    • SB you are a provocative little mynx! is it intentional? if it is well done! I find it amusing and hope that is the way it is intended.

      Remmah, You are not deluded! you are considered and thorough in the way you construct your arguments (to me at least), please keep em' coming.

      I agree with your and NBR's assessment, I feel each of NBR's points contribute towards the results and performances we see each week. I too agree things are not all rosey and perfect and there are areas which need addressing.

      I feel 2, 3 and 4 are the biggest contributors, 5 possibly (feels like I'm ordering a chinese), but differentiating between point 5 and accurately assessing our opponents capabilities is tricky, I feel there are many teams that we expect to beat that we shouldn't necessarily. This is a tough league with many good managers.

      Each of those points is valid and cannot be proven or otherwise, without inside knowledge to the club, which as far as I know none of us has! which is why Lynching AVB at this stage seems like lunacy to me. It nice to see I'm not the only one who thinks he may not be the sole reason for our current form/style of play.

      FFS we lost Luka, VDV and King in one window, how can anyone think we can carry on as normal after that? even if the players we brought in reach that level (which I doubt they will) its daft to expect it to happen immediately.

      Great Post NBR, ney, fudging awesome post NBR! Your last 2 paragraphs are superb IMO of course!


      SB! Positivity- its Xmas!

      Mistletoe anyone?!

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      • Is the defence leaking goals later, or is the defence just flakier in general, and when we go ahead (which has been in couple of games, later in the 2nd half), we try to then defend the lead - exposing the defence? Maybe that's due to a lack of confidence in our ability to press home an advantage?

        I haven't liked Verigo at LB, and I haven't seen a centre partnership that was as solid as last season - and Walker seemed to go bush (walk-about) early on (I don't think he was as bad as the media portrayed, but he did seem to lack even more in his defensive abilities). Then factor that Parker wasn't there in front of the back four snapping at heels - and maybe that's all it's been.
        With Parker, Benoooooit and Kaboul all due to come back - I think they'll make a major difference. Here's hoping anyway!