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  • FABONGRASS FABONGRASS Feb 26, 2013 08:19 Flag

    West Ham Game

    I watched last night, West Ham put up a great fight and deserved better. Bales goal came from nowhere, well, a fair way out at least. I was all set to gloat and with only one point in it, confident of over turning Spurs (and Chelsea). A different matter now, Spurs may go 7 points clear. Someone needs to send Bale lasagne, and fast.

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    • Well Fab, sets up an interesting game that doesn't it. Personally I thought we did not play well and once again we were hugely reliant on Bale. Ade had a nightmare especially in front of goal but his all round play was poor. He didn't hold the ball up and he was back looking like he wished he was somewhere else. Lennon did absolutely nothing - zip - until the sub left back came on and then he went past him a couple of times and got crosses in but overall - very poor. Dembele looked off the pace again, getting caught on the ball and giving away silly free kicks (knowing that West Ham score from these more than most). He was poor last time out and only his goal made him look better than his play merited.

      Holtby was doing a VDV by dropping so deep he was picking the ball up off the toes of Dawson and Caulker. Thats not where he should be is it! Verthongen was not as dominating as he has been and Parker looked like he was trying too hard. Who told him he could dribble and shoot FFS!

      All together, we were lucky to come out of that with 3 points and if we had lost I would not have been surprised. OK their goalkeeper pulled off some great saves but our play was lacklustre and there were too many players not performing anywhere near as well as they can/should.

      The fact that in a must win game and 2-1 down the only option for us was to bring on kid Carrol who has only played in 4 PL games and never scored and Livermore who has only a slightly better record but is hardly a potential match winner, says it all.

      My only hope is that Ade really wants to score against #$%$ and he does not get himself sent off again.


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      • Where's the sense in saying without Bale where would we be? We have him and if he's the one we need to rely on at the moment then so be it - what about Man U when Ronaldo was playing for them? Are we supposed to feel bad that we have such a great player in our team who can change games for us? Arsenal had it with Van Persie last season and got into the CL as a result - at our expense. If you remove Bale from the team then someone else would step up, that's the way it usually works. He wasn't playing that well earlier on in the season and yet we were still picking up points.

        West Ham came at us last night after having two weeks off, fresh as daisies, whereas we'd had 2 Euro matches. We may have started poor and West Ham fought harder than us but the fact is we created the better chances, their GK having to make some extraordinary saves and we kept pushing to the end until we got the last minute thing of beauty from Bale.

        As for the substitutions, Holtby was getting a real kicking out there in the second half and not able to influence the games. He'll learn that teams scrapping for anything in the PL will do that but until then AVB is right to ease him into premier league football the way he has been, so that he doesn't end up overcommitting, getting frustrated etc. Dembele gives us more presence in central midfield which is probably why he was kept on, but the fact he was taken off for a more attack minded Carroll minutes before our equaliser shows that knows what he's doing. It's not AVB's fault that there wasn't another striker to bring on. Livermore didn't do anything wrong when he came on and even had a hand in the winning goal, passing out from the edge of our penalty box.

        Name me any one team in this year's premier league that has played consistently well over the course of the season. We haven't been playing that well and yet winning games as a result. Not all because of Bale - how about the performances of Lloris? Dawson? Walker's picked it up lately, Dembele against Man U, Lennon for the most part, Holtby giving teams someone else to worry about? Maybe we'll struggle towards the end when we're burned out and not finish in the Top 4. But if we are there, we would have deserved it - the table doesn't lie.

      • I am really sorry that Spurs are playing #$%$, have done all season according to some on here. Man U have won the league how many times despite playing badly in lots of game?
        SOME JUST SEEM TO LIKE TO MOAN ABOUT SPURS FOR ANY REASON.. Just enjoy what we are building.
        Beginning of the season when AVB was appointed there were soo many postings deriding him. Saying we'll be lucky to finish in the top7/8 and how bad he was at Chelsea etc that he had to perform without the fans support for the first 10 or more games. How many times were the team booed off the field?

        Yes it may well be true we are not playing well but just look at the table.


        Ok we're not playing the fantastic football that the last manager had us playing but we are very well placed and still learning under AVB. Did nobody notice the celebrations after the 3rd goal. How nearly everyone, led by Bale, ran over to AVB and the coaching staff to join a big huddle. That shows how much of a team spirit we have in our squad and that can be worth a load of points over a season. We haven't showed that kind of spirit for years.

        Hopefully given a couple of seasons, and getting his players in, we may get to see the team playing as Porto did when he was there. It takes time to build a team, and a squad, and to get them playing as the coach really wants!!!!!

      • I never mentioned we had a strong squad but please tell me HOW you come to the conclusion that we have got the same squad?
        We lost Modric, VDV, Kaboul, King, Adebayor (most of this season) and Corluka, Krankjar, Dos Santos, and other peripheral players. Additions of Dempsey, Siggy, Holtby so that is at least half of the 25 man squad that has changed.
        I'm more of a half-full than half-empty person, I think AVB has done magic with the squad we have now and getting them to play his way. I never said we played well but we have played well enough to get results albeit with luck. Given time and the right tinkering and I think we will be challenging for honours.
        As for ENIC and Levi, would you rather we went back to the days of IRVINE SCHOLAR, nearly bankrupt (and would have been if not for Alan Sugar), mid to lower part of the table year in, year out??????????
        I know how we'd all like to have every player that's available (like Chelsea and Man city or Anzhi, or PSG) but we are run as a business on a financially sound basis and those dreams are not commenserate with our balance sheet.