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I'm not sure that AVB is right and that 70 points will be enough this season now. Even 70 means 16 points from 8 games - so the win home, draw away syndrome. With Chelsea, City and Everton in the games mix,
I think we'll need all 3 points today - simply to get back on track and in 'win mode' - and to get a couple of extra points behind us, should any of the other games go awry.
I'd not heard the 70 points thing, but had a quick looksee: last season 3rd & 4th finished on 69 & 70 points, and at this point (date-wise) we'd played 30 & those around us had played 31, whereas we're in the opposite position now, and we had 2 less points & were a position lower. So we were pretty much in the same position both points and position-wise.
There were also only 5 points separating 3rd-5th (currently 4pts). The interesting difference for me is in 2nd place; Man City are 9 points lower now than they were then, meaning that second place is obtainable (I'm not saying I'm aiming for it, I'm talking big picture and the mental impact external factors have), which has never really been the case for us before. I get the impression that there's been that 'look up' mentality instilled through the team this year, whereas you could argue in other years there tends to be a 'look at Arsenal' mentality.
Let's not forget, last year we had a downturn, but there were a lot of outside factors influencing it - 'Arry's court case, the England Manager's role, etc etc - and we still finished 4th by 4 clear points, only 1 point off 3rd. Chelsea are still in not one but 2 cups (a lot's been made of today being's their first game of 6 in 16 days), and are still massively inconsistent, and who knows what'll happen to Man City once they mathematically can't catch Man U?
I guess what I'm saying is this season's been a funny one, 2 wins on the bounce and we're tiitle challenging and 2 consecutive losses & we're relegation fodder; the fat lady's not even warming up yet so let's not write anything off and be supporters in the literal sense of the word.
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Nicking 5th??? What a ridiculous comment. Clearly not a Spurs fan. I'm not at all worried about Liverpool, not really worried about Everton. Arsenal look like they will finish strong though. It will be a tough run in but I think Spurs can hang in there for 3rd or 4th.
Good game today and good performance from Southampton too! I'd love to see Chelsea finish out of the top four again. They were way too lucky to win champion's league last season. They shouldn't have even been there this season.
BOOOM! Lennon back, and with him our performance (JL, I know you disagree with me on the Liverpool game, but I thought we played shockingly; funny, as you and I normally see games very similarly). I'll take 2-1 away to Swansea, they're not an easy team to beat, and games between us get bonus points for being easy on the eye ;)
SB, I try not to point it out, but I have to say it now for my sanity: dropping down the table isn't 'nicking' a spot, it's having our position nicked. As you said the other day, the table doesn't lie and currently we're in 3rd; that's all we're as good or as bad as. But let's not get into the same old debate, I just couldn't bite my tongue when the opportunity to be a pedant was shouting at me!
Special mention for Southampton, they played terrifically for us today! I've watched Rickie Lambert since they were in L1 (ex-boss was a saint so we used to have loads of banter about Bale and how if RL was a couple of years younger we'd have him too), after being dropped at the beginning of the season I'm really pleased he's doing so well. It's exciting down there at the bottom isn't it, 11th is the lowest spot that you'd think is completely safe from the relegation battle; personally I'd like Villa & Wigan to switch places & then I'm happy with the bottom 3.