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  • john john Apr 5, 2013 21:12 Flag

    europas ruined our season

    NBR....At last, a fan talking like a football fan and not like an accountant. I thought all fans got into football for the glory days when your club got to a cup final and you see your captain hold aloft the trophy. We had many a great european night in the previous version of the europa and no-one said it was a micky mouse cup then, even though it was third in line to the european cup and the cup winners cup. Even if we did finish regularly in the top four, I dont think we have owners who would pay top fees and wages for the top players, and would be more content to get by on players just about good enough to get top four . The sooner they make the winners of the domestic cups and the europa cup to join the league champs in the CL the better IMO instead of rewarding the failure of clubs who finish 2nd. 3rd and fourth. Still, I guess its the way of the modern game that some fans are more interested in taking part in a competition that only about eight clubs in europe have any chance of actually winning, and most of them have double or higher our ground capacity as well as rich benifactors who are prepared to spend fortunes. As a fan, give me a cup any day, and if by chance we ever get a squad of talented players good enough to win the CL through youth and astute buys then all the more glorious for an old fashion fan like me.

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    • John/NBR,
      Isn't it all a trade off though throughout the season? Don't you adjust what you what based on what is attainable?
      While we we a mid table team, winning a domestic cup would have been superb. But as soon as we started to regularly hit the European spots (which isn't that long ago) - and brought teams like the Milans to the Lane - isn't that reward in itself? It doesn't preclude going after a domestic cup, but surely the goal is now higher?
      And whether we like it or not, the players all now cost a fortune to buy and in wages, so the domestic cups simply don't 'earn' enough (£100K for the League Cup and £2M for the FA Cup - and that is winning them) - to win the Europa is probably closer to £10M (given the match and round bonuses).
      But for me, it is and isn't about the money. I want a team that plays well and with flair - and I want to see us 'prove' how good we are by playing the best teams. I'm not that impressed by winning the LC having beaten Barnsley, Coventry...on the way. I want to see us beat RM - and the only chance of that is getting into the competition where those teams play - and that is by invite only - you have to get 4th and above. And by virtue or earning that 'invite' you get more money that hopefully enables you to return next year with better players. All money based, I know.

      So, yep, I want the glory of lifting a trophy - but I want the FA over the League Cup and the Europa over the FA and the CL over the Europa. And there's the dichotomy as do I want Europa at the expense of the invite to the CL? Aaaaarrrrrrrrgh. I want both! I want us to be hosting the top clubs next season in the CL. I'd like the glory of lifting the Europa. What is more beneficial to the club? I would guess the CL.

      Confused? I am....