So what happens when you have a bunch of shite players playing in a shite system ???? Something like Stan Staunton is dishing out with Ireland, that's what.
And in contrast to that - remember 'Big' Jack Charlton - he had some great players playing in a shite system for Ireland, but they knew how to do the job required of them, and achieved far more than was ever expected of them.
(Ok - before you say it, alongside Ronnie Whelan, Paul McGrath et all there were also a fair few donkeys, I know).