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Of course we are not winning the league. But, the team has seemingly righted itself. Many that were calling fo his head are now a bit reticent. I, myself, was on the fence, not yet ready to call for his head, but definitely dissatisfied with the staus quo.
My question is: are you once again backing the Prof to lead us to the upper regions of the table, or is he still a candidate for the sack?
My opinion is, I was ready to disavow him based on the performances. I hadn't yet, because I had a belief that he could get things right. I think he has, and he has my vote of confidence again. What say the pundits of the board?
I am still of the opinion we need change both in the board room and at managerial level
I want rid of silent Stan his defence of the Glaziers debt foisted on Manu as being ok was the last straw for me
I want him and deadwood and his chums out a new board headed most likly by David Dein and backed by Ustamov he at least watches the team when they play at home
As far as Wenger goes I would give him another season with dein back to help him and if no change and reticence in the transfer windows then yes he has to go IMHO
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First it was top 2, then it became top 4. What will it be next? Top 6? We are staring at a potential top 6 this season even though the team is playing a lot better than in August/September. I think Wenger will still be here next year but will not stay beyond his current one. As far as I am concerned he has taken us as far as he can. And if Dead Wood and his cohort could leave at the same time this woud be even better.
Defensively we look stronger and more confident but as always with us, we are always one mauling away from shattered confidence and controversy.
I think Wenger may strengthen further In January and I would really like him to address the striker issue. We basically have no out and out goal scorer and we are fortunate Van Persie is shining at the moment. If he gets injured we will have problems.
I dont know what has happened to Chamakh and Park is only a temporary player at best and isnt proven.
The signings we made a few months back have done the job but Im not sure how far they can take us without the additions we still need.
Gilly Gilly Ossenfeffer Katzenellenbogen Gilly Gilly Ossenfeffer Katzenellenbogen Nov 7, 2011 09:02 Flag
"you can tell....just by the way he continually label everyone 'gay'. Much love Rikky! Much love!!"
No, you're not gay Pixie ..... MUCH!!
Wrote Rikky 'the all knowing'.......he who famously called for Ferguson to be SACKED, about mid-point last season.
Oh....and the season before....and the season before that...and the season before etc etc.
Still, his is obviously mensa material...you can tell....just by the way he continually label everyone 'gay'.
Much love Rikky!
Gilly Gilly Ossenfeffer Katzenellenbogen Gilly Gilly Ossenfeffer Katzenellenbogen Nov 6, 2011 14:31 Flag
"Once Man U succeeded in using on-field violence to halt the brilliance of the Arsenal invincibles, Fergie spread the message to his loyal mates like Allardyce and McLeish. A few smashed bones soon followed and the refs were largely negligent in allowing these violent acts to take place. It became acceptable to be violent against Arsenal players on the pitch because 'they didn't like it up 'em'."
That's funnier than anything slayer or Pixie have ever come up with!
We have not gone backwards under Wenger at all. He basically took us foward to the level of the regular champion before then, Man U. So we only really had Man U to compete with for the title. Then Chelsea came to change the playing field by inflating the transfer fees and player salaries. People like Wright-Phillips were signed for well over 20m
People think Man U reacted but that is not the case. They have always had a good squad with 2-3 super talent. When they signed Ronaldo he wasn't a superstar but matured in time to help compete against Chelsea
Unfortunately for Arsenal it coincided with a period when we had to make a huge investment in our facilities. It required Wenger to develop young players more as the only way to buy superstars of the future. He made a good job of it but.....
Once Man U succeeded in using on-field violence to halt the brilliance of the Arsenal invincibles, Fergie spread the message to his loyal mates like Allardyce and McLeish. A few smashed bones soon followed and the refs were largely negligent in allowing these violent acts to take place. It became acceptable to be violent against Arsenal players on the pitch because 'they didn't like it up 'em'. Mr Neville admitted as much recently
Then injuries. People who refuse to consider this as a serious factor should never been taken seriously. The big factor in the invincible year was the luck with injuries. Even the big spenders with 23 international players in their squad rely on a few key players to be fit throughout the season
Mourinho lost his Chelsea job as soon as he had to deal with key absences through injuries. He lost games. There is only one Rooney at Man U. Take him and Vidic out for 3 months and they would struggle to compete for the title. There is only one Messi at Barca. You couldn't replace him with a similar quality if he was injured. Barca are great but have been lucky to have very few injury problems in the last few years. Without Messi I would bet against Barca winning the CL or spanish title
RVP's recent stats show what we've been missing when he's been out so long. Anyone knows the last time Wenger was able to pick his 1st eleven?
We have great and weak players now. We have always done and that inludes the invincible years. The strangest thing about our injury record is that we tend to have multiple injuries in the same position. So first team players and their back up injured at the same time. We end up with a poorly balanced team as we move players from elsewhere. Example is v Spurs. We had a single central defender fit for that game. Even Miquel was injured.
Remember when we lost all strikers and ended up with Arshavin as our lone striker or when both right backs were central midfielders were out?
They all count
So it is a case of new clubs rising way above what there used to be with unlimited resources which are mostly carelessly spent. Should we have paid the salary Man City offered Nasri? No! He simply is not good enough for that amount of money weekly. We pay Gervinho less and I perfer his game as he is more direct. Nasri will not be nominated for the Footballer of the Year this time despite his comments when he joined City
Wenger is a great manager who has done wonders on limited resources. It is ignorant to think he would not spend more on players if it didn't mean the club's financial health was threatened.
Gilly Gilly Ossenfeffer Katzenellenbogen Gilly Gilly Ossenfeffer Katzenellenbogen Nov 6, 2011 13:14 Flag
Arsenal's season still needs putting in perspective; you've played eleven games, five against teams at the top, of which you've won one, drawn one and lost three.
Of the other six games, you've won five, all at home, and lost the one away game.
If your aim is to finish in the top seven, and nick a place in Europe, then you're doing OK, if you're looking towards winning the CL, or the title, there's plenty of improvement needed yet.
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