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  • John John May 6, 2013 10:01 Flag

    An interesting article about the plight of the club

    Nothing that I and others haven't been saying for years.

    This however could be areal concern:-


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    • Just about the sort of things I expect from the sad qunt Stewart Robson, John.

      He's being waging his personal war of attrition against the club ever since he lost his lucrative Arsenal TV punditry job. ;-)

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      • Leaving aside who the quote comes from for one minute. Do you not think that, given the record held since 2005 of selling our best players, that there would be a concern to us fans that the same thing wont happen again this summer?

        The article you posted lays out the fact that even though the club always says it has money to spend, AW never spends it. I think everyone with a modicum of sense agrees with that.

        I can't wait to see how the sheep try to defend their unwavering belief if we don't get into the top four this year.

        It's one thing to be in position where you can't compete. It's another when the club keeps telling us it can compete, but then doesn't! It's not as if the sheep around here actually contribute to the clubs coffers. Unlike some of us.

        I really want us to finish in the top four again, and in the CL. Without it, we wont be able to buy the players we need to win silverware.

        At this stage, the odds are stacked against us. Everyone knows we need a miracle and if we get one, the sheep will claim it to be Wengers plan all along.

    • The thing that always makes me titter is that the Wenger hate mob always talk of 'selling our stars', as though Arsenal could have possibly kept the examples given of Fabregas and Van Persie and even Nasri.

      ALL those three WANTED to leave the club.

      Fabregas was linked to Barca for YEARS before the club finally gave up on him. Nasri wanted the BIG earner that ONLY the likes of City could offer, and RVP stated his move had nothing to do with money, because he was supposedly offered an extremely lucrative deal by Arsenal.

      How does that add up to Arsenal supposedly selling 'stars' for financial gain over on the field success?

      Should Arsenal have FORCED these guys to stay????

      Dear oh dear oh dear.

      Surely it is a reasonable assumption that IF these three players had actually been available to play a bit more often (at Arsenal), rather than layed out in the treatment room, Arsenal would have fared better during those years. Arsenal were never that far off the pace, after all and these 'stars' are a cut above the average Prem players.

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      • That's a fair point Fab and I don't think any reasonable fan would argue too long with that. Having said that it the reason that these players want to go that can not be ignored.

        Do you believe RVP would have left if we just won our 3rd PL title last season out of the last 9 years? Do you think Cesc would have been as eager too leave if we had done a double PL & CL and were considered the best team in Europe?

        Like it or not, agree on the reasons or not, our club has obviously gone into a conservative business model - maximize profits minimize debt -first and trophy ambition second, mode resulting in us likely not winning any real trophies (PL or CL) for a 10 year period. To me it this phenomena that makes it hard to hang on to players good enough to be either ambitious in a sporting sense or financially.

        Recruitment and player retention for top clubs who can both pay top salary and win trophies more often than not (Real, Man U, Chelsea, Barca, Bayern, Milan, City(?)) is a lot easier than for the rest of us. It takes most of us more than 10 years to get used to the fact that we no longer compete for trophies or for the best and highest paid players because of our wage structure. We, and I count myself amongst those, who want to win trophies have to leave the past the past and get used to the fact that that simply is not who we are any longer as a club. Sure freaks happen in the CL and some times smaller teams can win this cup, but more often than not the best teams are the one's fighting for the CL.

        Some times I even delude myself, hoping and dreaming that we some how will bring in the players who can carry us back to the top and when we, predictably don't bring in these players, and when we fail to sign proper replacement players for the the likes of Cesc and RVP etc, I get angry with Wenger.

        The club would do well and help fans like me, to stop coming out each season claiming to expect to win the PL. They would do me a favor by just saying: "fans we are going to aim to try to be the best of the rest because we can neither pay nor afford the best players making winning major trophies a very long shot."

        You didn't hear Spurs talking about winning or competing for the PL, neither should we.

    • Yeah.....really concerned about what Stuart Robson thinks John.

      Crikey! I do hope Tony Cascarino isn't voicing similar opinions!!!

      (The mind boggles!)