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    Hamilton: cheat of all cheats

     

    Traps-Hamilton has disobeyed the orders of McLaren, harming clearly the interests of his team (if they have not done the doublet in McLaren-Mercedes it's because Traps-Hamilton disobeyed these order. The just thing would be that McLaren will sanction him, like a symbolic penalty and to keep up appearances.

    And Fernando Alonso is the only pilot that has counted in all the GP's of this season.

    It should give you shame, 'guiris'.

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    • Hamilton's decision to "disobey" the team's orders is something that happens with MOST drivers in MOST teams in ALL qualification sessions of EVERY grand prix, BECAUSE decisions made for the drivers' qualifying order before the actual qualification session are superseded by realities on the track! Such initial decisions are ALWAYS tentative and they are consistently changed or, from some people's point of view, "disobeyed" during the sessions without causing any uproar. The drivers and their teams simply adjust to a new order dictated by realities on the track.

      That happened with the McLaren drivers in Hungary too: Hamilton's decision to "disobey" the team's orders did not hurt Alonso's qualifying efforts at all and both drivers got their fair share of time on the track, UNTIL Alonso's childish and uninspired decision to hurt the British kid's final qualifying effort. Fortunately, the gesture was noticed by the FIA stewards and justice was restored immediately.

      Just to clarify my position, I am neither British nor a McLaren fan, but I love F1 racing overall, I have been following it for the past 20 odd years and I have had friends working for various teams. So I have been able to get inside information whenever something unusual happens and decided to share it with you, as I could see that some of you are trying very hard to understand what went down in McLaren's yard in Hungary...

      Plus, the only reason why the public does not know about these common changes (usually suggested by the drivers, as Hamilton did in Hungary) is because they do not affect the qualifying efforts of either driver, so they cannot make any huge headlines in the media.

      I wish both drivers fair and equal conditions to fight for the title during the remaining sessions.

    • Alonso (a.k.a the Spanish kid) should just admit there is a Brit who can beat him with his eyes closed. As for Dennis telling Alsonso to wait in the pitt lane...........what a no-briainer Dennis.......at least tell the Spanish prick to fake a stalled engine or something. Just like the 'Armada', we will be victorious yet again!!!!

    • Too bad Alonso can take the pressure, he going to try leave McLaren by the end of the season I bet.

    • we can support hamilton or alonso but in THIS case Lewis cheated and betrayed his team by complaining to FIA.

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      • I don't think he did complain. I reckon the FIA saw the press reactions and thought it would be sensible to do the sensible thing for a change. My view on the blocking issue is that it was so blatant no complaint was required.
        As for the team order issue, I'm honestly confused. Does 'burn fuel' mean 'go fast'? If that's the case, what was wrong? Hamilton was a second a lap quicker than Alonso, so how Alonso couldn't 'burn fuel' at that pace I don't quite grasp.

      • we can support hamilton or alonso but in THIS case Lewis cheated and betrayed his team by complaining to FIA.

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        What part of the Yellow Book or the F1 SRs did Hamilton break then to cheat? He allegedly ignored team orders in qualifying. That is not cheating as he broke no rule governing the championship. How do we know that he complained to the FIA? The Stewards act on a case after it is referred to them by Race Control. Very rarely does a driver complain to the Stewards without his team knowing and backing him. The Stewards then look at the visual, audio and written evidence and question the driver(s) involved. In this case they decided that Alonso was the one that had broken the rules and punished him. So in this case who is the cheat? I would say Alonso

    • Alonso is juast a big baby and when he doesnt get his own way he spits his dummy out, then gets his dad to fight his battles, maybe its time to put the wee spannish boy to bed.He obviously cant stand the possibility that lewis is so much better than him in every way possible.When under pressure did lewis ever go off track, look back at sepang when massa was hot on lewis`s heals it was massa who mucked up, so who out of the Mclarens pair has the controlability and focus needed.

    • Traps-Hamilton has disobeyed the orders of McLaren, harming clearly the interests of his team (if they have not done the doublet in McLaren-Mercedes it's because Traps-Hamilton disobeyed these order. The just thing would be that McLaren will sanction him, like a symbolic penalty and to keep up appearances.

      And Fernando Alonso is the only pilot that has counted in all the GP's of this season.

      It should give you shame, 'guiris'.

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      Team orders are against the F1 rule book so Hamilton was obeying the rules of the championship.

      Alonso is rattled by his rookie team mate. You are right in regards to Alonso scoring in every race but who is leading the Championship? Lewis Hamilton in his rookie season. You seem to hate Hamilton because he is beating your favourite driver. Let me remind you that Alonso has a less than perfect record as far as rules are concerned. In fact he had a major accident because he chose to disobey one of the most basic rules in motorsport ie failing to slow for a yellow flag ( in fact it was a full course yellow for an accident in Brazil and Alonso plowed into the accident because he did not slow for the yellows)

    • Lewis Hamilton has finished on podium every race bar one, how many Alonso. Hamilton only failed once through no fault of his own.

      As for Alonso, if he was'nt such a hot head, he would probably do much better. Example, Canada. He came off at first corner about 5 times. How many times did he come off the track today, about another half dozen times.

      Your comments are typical, hot headed just like Alonso. As for sanctions against Hamilton, i for one did'nt see Alonso trying too hard to pass Hamilton in qualifying. Maybe he just was'nt quick enough, haha.