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  • A Yahoo! User Sep 15, 2007 12:50 Flag

    Max the Red! He should be wearing a prancing horse.

    Hey Max, Get Real! It is quite refreshing to see so many McLaren fans venting their anger at everyone except the real criminal element - McLaren. McLaren could never defeat Ferrari fair and square, they had to resort to industrial espianage to get an unfair advantage. Look at all the e-mails pointing fingers at everyone else except the real culprits - Max, Bernie, The Press, Madonna, The Pit Girls, Big Foot, Aliens, The Beatles etc... even the party that has been damaged by all this is being blamed - Ferrari. You folks are pitiful and shameful. McLaren cheated and stole private property and used information ILLEGALLY! Dennis and company should go to JAIL!!! Crawl out from you rock and be a man, admitt the wrong and you will feel better.

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    • Mclaren has admitted that the Ferrari data was known by the Mclaren drivers and engineers (emails exchanged etc). Thus by this fact alone Mclaren was fully aware of the Ferrari technical information as also where Ferrari was concentrating its attention to improve their cars. This information would have been a great assistance to Mclaren's development since they could choose alternative technological mehtods and avoid spending time and money on ideas that Ferrari had invested into but which had not borne satisfactory results. This is a huge advantage to the McLaren technologists. It is of equal assistance for the two McLaren drivers who would know intimately the weaknesses of the Ferrari cars at any given time and this knowledge would allow the McLaren drivers and engineers to more accurately choose their pit strategies and also enable the drivers to know where on the track they should apply increased pressure on the Ferrari cars in order to put the Ferrari cars under greater technical stress. It is no secret that in several races this year the Ferrari cars have lost performance during a race which they should have won - it is not a coincidence that in most of such cases the McLaren cars performed out-of-the-ordinary overtaking manoeuvres. It is of no importance that McLaren claims that "no part of the Ferrari designs were incorporated" since it is abundantly clear that the net effects of the Ferrari data was certainly deployed by the McLaren engineers in their workshops and also used by their drivers on the tracks. It is an amazing claim on the part of Ron Dennis that he only became aware of the emails etc in the first week of August 2007 - well over half a year from the time the Ferrari details were obtained by Mclaren - it is more than likely that his disclosures of the emails was an attempt to divert attention away from himself - integrity - that is word Ron Dennis cannot even spell. If he has even a small portion of integrity he would have pulled Mclaren out of the championship and, even more importantly, he would have disclosed the illegal acquisition of the Ferrari techno-data many months ago. I sincerely hope that the Italian Police will complete the job and hold Dennis, his team and his drivers guilty and that the Italian courts will give them the punishment they richly deserve.