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  • dsteer_lfc_68 dsteer_lfc_68 Oct 5, 2007 02:54 Flag

    What is it you want?

    Some interesting comments, and thanks for keeping it serious. While rotation maybe part of the problem, glad people on this thread are not using it as the easy excuse.

    Pako not being around could really be an issue. While I'm sure the team is physically fit, they just don't seem to be game ready. Flat, with no sense of urgency.

    Not sure going with a stable 11 is really realistic in both the league and CL. First off, that's a hell of a lot of games and fatigue will eventually hit the squad, most likely at the worst time. Second, I really think tactical changes are necessary. Some players are just better suited for different types of games, whether that's bring in Alonso for slick passing vs Javier for cruching tackles, or Crouch for an air game, or Kuyt for off the ball runing. Third, how do you keep the back up players motivated and game ready. There are not enough domestic cup games to do this, and if one of the 11 goes down, the back up will be lost if he's not played in a month or two.

    In terms of dumping the usual players (Crouch, Riise, Momo, etc) I think this is an overeaction. I don't think Crouch was that bad, but the service he got was awful. Granted Momo was way off and why he was not pulled I don't know. But he's a back up player now, so not sure its fair to say lets sell him when all he did is prove he's not the first (or even second) choice.

    Personally I think the bulk of the blame resides with the midfield players. They set the tempo of the game, and determine who controls the game. We lost on both counts. They also provided little to no good service to the strikers. Most balls forward were way to heavy, so you can't blame a striker for not netting when he's chasing balls going into touch. You can pin blame on individuals who had poor games last night, but think they all, including those who did not play, need to have a hard think about what is going on. Maybe the "Best Midfield in the country" label went to their heads, but they need to come down to earth, figure out the basics, and start performing soon.

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    • ..i accept that it is a lot of games..but...what else are they doing....rest and recuperation is so advanced these days...how did the previous Liverpool teams manage with a squad of 18/19/20 and one sub...it only becomes a problem if you are losing games..if you are chasing honours then i firmly believe its not ...its a mental issue...Souness nailed it when he said ''if i wanted to play only 40 games a year i would not have joined Liverpool..i'd have joined a club that that didn't win anything''....

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      • as well as playing matches the travelling involved tires players out


        Wigan (a) marseille (h), Spurs (h), everton (a)

        over 4 games we dont leave the northwest, except for wigan we dont even leave the city of liverpool so using a settled side for all 4 games was an ideal oppertunity to get some momentum going

        the spurs game is massive the result and performance has to be something special to get the confidence and winning mentality back amongst the players and fans alike

      • Liverpool have been average and nowhere near title contenders in the games they played thus far with the exception of the Chelsea match. I'm not going to count the Derby match as a yardstick to judge any team because of the poor standing.

        I know a lot of scousers would disagree with my post but it is factual and last night's performance has been coming. Liverpool were very lucky against Villa and Wigan stealing the full points in both games, Villa were only undone as a result of poor officiating yet again awarding a foul for a perfectly timed tackle on Gerrard which led to the goal.

        Furthermore, if not for Wigan's Aghahowa glaring miss the points should have been shared between Liverpool and Wigan at the weekend, these are poor performances from a club which consider itself as a title challenge and have spent a very larger sums in the summer to be taken seriously. I believe it isn't the rotation system that is pool's undoing but the lack of quality creative players in Liverpool's squad. I blame the manager Rafa solely for not rectifying this deficiency in your club. Gillett provided the funds but Rafa made the wrong signings, I believe Liverpool are having similar problem to Chelsea's that is, lack of sufficient creative players amongst their squad too. It is one thing having a good finisher in front of goal like Torres but without other creative players to create the opportunities for him Liverpool would struggle both in Europe and in the domestic league this season.