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  • John John Jan 9, 2008 08:24 Flag

    ok heres the facts on transfer spending

    Kolo Toure only cost us £250k. Yet many would put him on a par with Ferdinand, in terms of ability. What does that tell you?

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    • It tells me that you can pick up good players for very little money, as we have done in the past with Hyypia and Agger - Carragher cost us nothing too.

      The point I'm making is that if ManUre or Chelski want to get a very good, experienced player for a particular position, tey get them, regardless of the cost - the rest of us have to scout for hidden gems, or get lucky.

      Don't forget that Wenger has had a long time to get his scouting set-up as he wants it, and has also made lots of expensive mistakes along the way, and also signed loads of young players that failed.

      By the way, who in the Arsenal team came tthrough from their youth team? Did that lad who scored at the weekend come through?

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      • You mean Nicholas Bendtner? He was a product of the youth system at FC Copenhagen I believe.

        Sadly the only players in the team on Sunday, who were products of the youth system were Justin Hoyte, Henri Lansbury & Mark Randall. All of which are English, and two are from London.

        However, Some of our 'Old' youth system players are doing well elsewhere. David Bentley, Sebastian Larsson, Fabrice Muamba & Matthew Connolly.

    • Jeffers (£8m), Wiltord (£13m), Cygan, Stepanovs, Wreh, Diawara, Obinna, Danilevicious, Luzhny, Volz, Van Bronkhurst, Boa Morte, Richard Wright (6m), Reyes (£12m).

      Wengers record for buying good young players really is great, isn't it?

      The fact remains that Wenger and Benitez need to buy young players for muc less than the 'big spending two'.

      If you sign 3-4 players for £2m-£8m each, and get 2 diamonds you've done well.

      Reina, Agger, Arbeloa & Alonso are excellent young players, Babel and Lucas Leiva look like great signings, and if Benitez bets his way, Mascherano will be a great signing.

      Sissoko will be sold on at a profit, and many of Benitez's 'failures' have been sold on at break-even or a profit - Gonzales (break-even), Bellamy (profit), Paletta (break-even), Barragan (profit).

      Josemi (£2m) was a failure, but he was swapped for Kromkamp (another failure) who was sold for £2.5m - the proceeds were used to sign Arbeloa who is excellent.

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      • Sylvain Wiltord was a top professional. In 175 games he scored 49 goals, which wasn't bad considering TH14 was our main man at the time.
        He only left when he reached that magical age of 30. But even then, he went on to win honours with Lyon.

        Reyes was probably our biggest dissapointment. Not because he wasn't talented, but because he never fitted into the EPL way of life. No-one could know if that would be the case.

        Gio was kept out of the first eleven at Arsenal but went on to become a regular at Barcelona. I don't see how he could be seen as a bad buy.

        Some of the others weren't big buys, but still had credible careers. I do agree that AW doesn't have a great record of signing 'Big' stars for 'Big' money.
        That said, he has nearly always made moeny on the ones he has signed.