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According to the Independent a deal has been struck for Keane to return to Spurs for around £15million.
I really do not understand why Keane has not been a better player for us but hay these things happen in the game.
It looks like Rafa can now pick the players he wants to buy from now on to take us forward so happy days something good may of come from this affair.
I'm glad that he's gone coz it is obvious he didn't fit in to the way we play. I must admit I was surprised at his lack of pace. Hopefully we can get somebody with real pace in for the right hand side coz Kuyt should be on the bus as well!
Think I've been clear in my backing of Rafa in the past, but this one I have to put on Rafa's shoulders. There is no way that Keane was bought without Rafa's agreement, or at least knowledge. And, he must have known what kind of player Keane was. How many times have we played Spurs while Rafa has been with us.
For me this is a great shame. I've always liked Keane, and the thought of us getting a proven striker, who is also a die hard Red, was mouth watering to me.
I don't think he's become a bad player overnight, although obviously form and confidence has fallen. But I think the main problem is he's not a great fit into our system. I think Rafa thought he was getting a back up for Torres or Kuyt, but in fact he's a better fit in the position that Gerrard now fills.
If he goes, then that is the way it has to be. But, this one has to go into Rafa's accounting column.
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I wish I knew the full story on Robbie Keane's transfer. All I can say is that having seen him in the red shirt, I haven't been impressed at all, and a lot of the commentators have talked absolute baloney when they say he hasn't played in his correct position. Gerrard for season after season is played out of position. Kuyt is played out of position. They both still do well enough to stay in the team. Keane has started up top and he has started behind AN other, and I can think of three times at least that the AN Other was Torres.
I like Rafa have been hugely underwhelmed by Keane's attitude, and although he hasn't gone public with any dissatisfaction which many players would have, he HAS whinged and moaned his way through most of his minutes on pitch, and his atitude towards getting the hook after 60/70mins is no less than appalling.
I think its the best outcome all round if he completes his move back, and I was seriously worried we;d lose half our outlay, rather than just 5m!
...absolutely sick that our club could treat someone this way - and apart from showing his dissatisfaction at being taken off a few times (which is normal) I think Keane conducted himself with great dignity.
As for Parry ? I wouldn't send him out with a note to the shops to buy a loaf of bread...he is an idiot on borrowed time and he knows it - and he still sits there in the directors box - makes my blood boil just looking at him.
Benitez - well if he wasnt involved in signing him (I dont believe that) - he was involved in showing him the door...RB will be judged on what happens in May - with no adequate cover for Torres he may regret this - we'll see....could be ironic that our last game is against Spurs...
Its very clear that robbie keane was not playing bad for liverpool. He just didnt get any games and when he did was played out of position or as a lone striker. You dont become a bad player overnight, benitez just doesnt have a clue as a manager. He really is light years behind sir alex. Keane was treated like crap and im sure he is glad to be gone.
Lot of things behind this we don't know, and may never know. Yes on face value letting our second best striker maybe a mistake. But then, since there is a debate on whether Rafa wanted him, is he the one who sold him. If not, maybe someone else has lost it.
But that aside, as I do think Rafa was at least in the loop on both ends of this, and deserves to be held accountable, the other factor is balancing what Robbie was contributing. Fact is, whether its his fault or not, he was not contributing that much. Yes maybe he did not get a fair shake, but when he did play, he missed plenty of opportunities to prove himself.
The reality is, with both Torres and Gerrard fit, he's not going to get many minutes on the pitch (unless people now think its a good idea to sub Gerrard for Keane?), and if him sitting on the bench, or in the stands is going to cause a disruption, whether by the player directly, or just from the press chatter, then he's a liability.
On a personal level I'd love'd to have kept him. He's my kind of player. Hard worker, die hard red since he was a kid, and when he's on, he brings something special. But if the interests of the club as a whole are not going in the right direction, then got to put club before a single player.
always thought that Robbie was a good striker even before he came to Liverpool,sorry to see him go and wish him well in the future although not against us.He had his chance and for whatever reasons it just didn't work.As we play Spurs on the last day of the season,it would be an interesting scenario if both clubs needed a win/draw to win the Premiership/avoid relegation and Spurs were awarded a penalty in the last minute and Robbie steps up to take it.Do you score to avoid relegation or miss to get a Premiership winner's medal as you've played the required number of games to get one?especially since it's the team that you've supported since you were a young boy.What would you do?
i dont agree AS2204, Keane has been a regular in the side since he joined just about because we have been missing Torres. 28 Games even only playing for 60 minutes in my reckoning is a lot more than Babel for example.
12 months ago we splashed 22mill on Torres with instant return, I'm sorry Keane hasnt done that and I would have expected a better return than 7 goals in 28 games - for a proven premiership striker, playing alongside one of the most creative midfields in European football he at times looked like he couldnt hit a barn door with a shovel. Even Crouch had a better return and he was picked up for a third of what we paid for Keane.
It was noted from day one that no-one knew how Liverpool would accomodate him in the team - Torres will always be first name on the sheet along with Gerrard and to be fair to Keane he is not a 2nd string striker he should be leading the line, but in a team that is set up to play to his strengths. Liverpool are set up to play to Gerrards and Torres strengths and when Keane did lead the line - he failed to link up with Gerrard the same way that Torres does.
Sometimes, what might appear to be a good signing can soon appear to be a bad one. Was Keane putting too much pressure on himself by being a life long red playing in front of the Kop - maybe.
We were all excited by the arrival of Robbie Keane in the summer - the sort of high quality signing we have yearned for - however you mentioned Alex Ferguson in your post, wasn't it he who questioned why Liverpool had paid 19mill for Keane.
The unfortunate fact is that Keane, is a very good footballer but clearly didnt fit in with the style and formation that Rafa wants to play, the formation that played Chelsea off the park yesterday, and the formation that against Everton last week had 70 odd percent of the possession.
Just going back to Alex Ferguson as well, he too has paid top moeny for players and ended up getting it wrong - Veron is a perfect example of that. And by the way does anyone criticise Fergie for leaving £30mill Tevez on the bench each week.....dont think so somehow.
How on earth a player who has scored 5 goals in a season where he has been destroyed by Rafa is a better sell than cant trap a ball, runs around like an eeejit Kuyt I dont know. Keane is the 3rd best goal scorer this season even with the shannanigans he was subjected to.. What Benitez likes about Kuyt I'll never know. Good luck Robbie.. but not against us
Fair comment on the goals front, but take a look at Spikes post. Fact is Robbie was not fitting into the system. Kuyt may also not be a player that can lead the line, but he's been damn useful on the wing, and I believe from that position he's picked up enough goals to be 4th on our goal scorers list.
Bottom line, while I've always like Keane, and really hoped he'd be a great player for us, its about the team. The team plays in a system, and it does not matter how good an idividual is, if he can't fit into that system, he's not going to make the team better.
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