DSTEER...the stuff u get back from Pand S dont u think u bring it on u self ? I mean look at u response to my post mentioning Voronins form...sarcastic meandering about how everything including tomorrows possible inclement weather is RBs fault and how its people who wanted Voronin out who now want him back etc. Dont u think this is proff positive of my contention that so many inc u self in the HAVE FAITH IN RAFA BRIGADE are blinkered to those points of view at variance with their own where the RB in or out debate is concerned ? If u read what Voronin himself had to say more recently you will pick up readily IF u are prepared to read between the lines just how much he feels RB was to blame for his unproductive spell with us. Do check it out ...I mean there is a lot of truth in what Pand S is saying...RB is clearly a VERY stubborn man and prepared to go to extreme lengths even to the point of destroying a players confidence in order to vindicate his own point of view. I do admit Pand S may not in your view be the most polite of individuals on this board but as Ive said previously I do believe he has the best interests of this club of OURS at heart.