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Good afternoon kop-ites and plastics.
What a SUPERB interview with Mr Gillett making the rounds today that really puts RAFA 'the fraud' and all YOU pathetic Rafa-lites in their place.
YES the Yanks, like all billionaire owners, have their faults, but what many FOOLS here fail to see is that Gillett is an astute man who helped build a GREAT winning ice hockey team in Dallas and he is BANG ON in his astute overview of our FAILURE of a manager.
Let's look at the key evidence...
Millions spent thanks to the generosity of our owners - second only to Chavski over five years in fact.
Over 80 comings and goings! Most SHYTE!
NO academy success stories despite a massive overhaul.
NO strength in depth - STILL!
ZERO trophies in years and only two FLUKE ones on penalties after being ouplayed in both finals.
The list is endless friends.
I said it last year - resigning Fatlad was a disaster and as usual your Pharaoh has been proven right!
Our owner has given this moaning Spanish waiter a much needed kick up the srse... much as your leader here does to YOU and i LOVE IT!
Now plastics, forget blaming money and the owners and blame the man in charge who is sending our beloved club down the sh*tter this season. LOOK at the way we are playing this season... it's a fcuking DISGRACE!
Arise King Kenny....... arise!!!!!!!!!
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George Gillett has an interest in the Montreal Canadiens, he bought into them in 2001, but he did not build up this team, they where the most successful ice hockey team in North America long, long before they heard of Gillett.
Oh my god p&s I never thought I would ever agree with you but here you are right on point. They are successful business men and if anyone out there thinks they want to run the club into the ground and lose money you are nuts. We all sit here collecting our pay checks (hopefully we got jobs in the lousy economy) and struggle to pay bills yet we think we are better at business than these men who have built an empire. If you are then you should have the cash or resources to buy and turn us around so do it.....If we win the league the amount of revenue generated from promotional merchandise is huge of course they want to invest and win. Rafa spent 20 mill on a Ok midfielder that is sick don't care what you say we will not know if he is fit until he plays regularly he could be a bust. Then he misses out on a free for Owen on a pay as you play nothing to lose there like him or not. Dunne was available and just played a blinder Monday as we moan about defense he could of done a job and on the cheap. Manager is to blame for not bringing in the quality players. We did not need to buy overpaid superstars just quality. We should build our team around Johnson, Carra( two yrs tops groom a successor), Gerrard, Torres. All we need is a pass distributor from mid strong defensive mid and strong center backs players to hold the ball and build forward. Johnson and Carra provide leadership at the back and we all know what Gerrard and Torres are capable of if they do not have to worry about tracking back to help out the glass defense. Rafa had enough cash just invested unwisely.
P&S can we dare dream.....King Kenny back?????
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An excellent post from you here son - it's very refreshing to see the binkers coming off of so many passionate kop-ites now that Rafa the goat has been exposed by our owners and players such as Xabi Alonso and Peter Crouch.
YES, we have missed out on a boat load of quality players this off season and I am still adamant that we also need two QUALITY, FAST, hug-the-touchline wingers in the classic Macca, Heighway mould who can supply pinpoint crosses to Torres and Gerrard etc.
YES lad, we can dream of King Kenny returning to the dugout where he belongs. He's off the sauce, already back at the club and is the greatest servant this club has EVER known. A proven WINNER!
Any man who attends 96 LFC funerals deserves the top job at his leisure for LIFE... and it's an absolute DISGRACE that some of the w@nkers on this board would not welcome the King back to his rightful throne!
but again with P&S I will agree they are succesfull business men, it's not their fault the football team they own has a manager that does not know his ass from his elbow, and a team that rely on Gerrard and Torres far two much. And Lucas to me prove just how stuborn and misguided Rafa is.
Ok, we'll try to engage in a little debate, or as you say discussion. But if your only interested in a slagging match I'm off, you can pi$$ in the wind.
First lets get a few facts straight.
Gillett owned the Montreal Hockey team, not Dallas. Gillette has sold up his holdings to Molson, while the Dallas team is still owned by Hicks. If we can't get the basics right, we got to question what else you might have gotten wrong.
Second only to Chelsea, do you have any stats on that? Talking net spending, you might be right, but like to see some evidence before we can take that at face value.
80 coming and goings, most you consider shyte. Fair enough your opinion, but opinion is far from hard evidence
Academy failing to produce. Actually agree with you. But let me ask you, how long do you think it takes to produce a decent academy player ready for the first team? Now tell me when the overhaul began? Think you get my point.
Think thats enough for you to go on, don't want to be accused of rattling on and being boring, now do I?
Damn, I failed. I wrote than one just for you Sean. Was hoping you'd either get bored and just move on so I'd not have to hear from you, or you'd labor through the entire post and be board literally to death.
Have to agree with Paisley on this peeps, Rafa spent all summer fucking around with the Alonso deal where he should of sold right from that start and had time to bring a fully fit replacement in.
He's trying to play the same formation as last season and it's failing...why?
Because Xabi is 10 times the player Mascharano and Lucas is and only now is Rafa realising how much of a fuck was done when he tried to offload Xabi the season before as if it hadn't he will still be here and we would be a lot higher up in the league than we are now.
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rafalution...if rafa hadn't tried to seel xabi last summer, xabi would never have had the great season that he did last season. It was the kick up the @rse that he needed. If your honest, you will admit that he wasn''t AS great in the previous two seasons.
Not necessarily for you Daniel, but curious how people think. I'd also agree with you that going home to Spain, playing for one of the 2 largest clubs in his homeland, and being a world cup year having the chance to impress his national team coach locally and in a league where his direct competition for a starting slot also plays was very appealing to him.
But of course others may have a different point of view.
Ok, put it this way, if Rafa had not try to sell him, but Real still came in for him, do you think he'd run off to Spain, or stuck it out with us? Ronaldo was really wanted by everyone at OT, yet the lure of the Bernabeu was too strong, and he's not even Spanish.
Maybe the relationship between Rafa and Alonso was the reason, or at least part of the reason, but to assume its the majority, let alone the soul reason Alonso decided to take a flight back home beggars belief for me.
Some interesting rhetoric going on here i see!
Welcome back Tafty you old goat. Come on now Glyn YOU'VE been agreeing with me for a while now son and you know it. That's why i'm the visionary here mate... what i say comes to pass as reality sometimes YEARS later - and you are bang on about Alonso as i have previously stated.
What steer needs to realise is the DISGRACEFUL treatment Xabi recieved by being openly peddled to Juve so fatlad could buy Gareth Barry was the CATALYST that caused the lad to leave the club. Yes he upped his game for us, BUT that was because he was in the shop window and as soon as the Mighty Whites came calling it was a no-brainer he was gone... all thanks to Pugwash and his woeful man management.
Iceman is right though - steer NEVER learns and NEVER accepts the FACTS even when evidence is provided. Good job he's not a judge or we'd all be stuck in a holding cell for life while he mulls over whether to sentence us all or not! ahahahaha
colin, just wanted to pick on one point that u made...neil mellor. I was watching the famous 2-1 victory over arsenal today when he scored that tremendous injury time lasy kick of the game goal and thought exactly the same. All game he was heading balls down for the likes of gerrard, alonso and kewell to run onto and that is exactly what torres could do with when the going's getting a but tough.
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