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I must admit I've not been impressed with him so far, somebody summed it up perfectly for me, its Dirk Kuyt but for the left. That was meant as a compliment! Please don't give me the 'works hard' cr*p, its not good enough fof LFC to just be a hard worker, that should be given!
Another one who wont last 2 seasons hopefully!
- 1 Reply to eloader
I've been thoroughly disappointed with what I've seen from Jovanovic, especially considering he's had more time to work with Roy and the team than some others.
I'm willing to give him a little bit more time, but a Very short leash because it's perplexing to see him play so well at the world cup vs the likes of Germany, and in Champions League and then be so shockingly out of his depth vs the citizens, and even worse vs west brom of all teams. He was practically invisible and the team didn't get better until the 2nd half when Kuyt went left and he switched right. Maybe that could benefit him, since he's not an out and out left winger and could cut inside on his left as a very poor man's Arjen Robben.
Makes ya wonder how Rafa or the LFC scouts never saw or got involved in a player like Adam Johnson who City sneezed at and got for 5 million. He could be one of the greatest buys they've made and in the epl for the forseeable future.
I'll be honest the lad has yet to impress me either, other than a couple head down runs at the Arsenal defense which at least showed his willingness to run at defenders. But, come off it, its been 3 league matches for a new player in a new league. Let's at least give him a little time to see if he can settle and step up to the prem. Its a big difference between Belgium and the Prem, and I doubt many would settle instantly.
But what I find the most funny, and I know its not been mentioned on this thread, but has been on others by some of you, that because you have already written Jova off after 3 league games, its Babel's chance to finally get a run of games, and yet another chance. Sorry, but forget passing a logic test, its just hilarious. One lad is cast off as a failure after 3 league matches, but after more than 3 seasons, the jury is still out on the other. Come on!
- 1 Reply to dsteer_lfc_68
I think it's more the manner of which he's been disappointing, not just the overall body of work. He's shown fantastic dribbling skills, pace, change of pace and shooting ability, and now he's shown none of that. Just straight runs, muscled off the ball, and dispossesed immediately. I'm not calling him rubbish by any means, 3 games, 2 vs Arsenal and Man City are certainly not an easy welcome to the Prem. However, I can't fight his cause for the shocking performance vs WBA.. He showed a little life when switched to the right side, but the most telling thing is that Roy took him off after what 55" or so? I don't want to dismiss him just yet, because he was on the free, but he's got to start showing a bit of something soon. W/ Kuyt out, maybe rw is his calling ?
As for Babel, me personally, he's driven me to my wits end with his great and poor performances, but I've wanted thim to have a starting spot in 1 position for 1 significant period of time. I don't know, maybe someone can find a stat, what's his longest consecutive streak of starts, and in 1 position? He says he's a striker, though he doesn't have the attributes of most European strikers, he's been on the left and on the right.. I just don't know.
Just for argument's sake, since I do think he's the most perplexing player on the team, would anyone be shocked if he went to United and became a winger of Antonio Valencia's quality? I wouldn't to be honest.. That's what frightens me of him playing elsewhere, someone getting in that thick skull of his and turning out a near top tier wide player.
I think this is exactly the reason why Babel has always been played primarily on the left. Because of his natural inclination to cut inside towards his right foot and shoot, though yes it makes the team very narrow and predictable unless you have a top quality full back overlapping behind. If Babel had the natural crossing ability then maybe he'd have been ideal on the right all along, but he predictably would cut inside with no left and get dispossessed.
Since Ngog is injured, it's almost a guarantee that Babel won't be starting anywhere because sadly, he remains the only "" striker in the squad with Kuyt out practicing his gymnastics. Seems Pacheco will get his chance and perhaps Jova will play on the right ? Both have their chance this weekend..
As for the Babel debates, I was never on these boards for the past 3 years pleading his case. I am just simply stating he's in the squad, at least until January, he's going to have to play, and play well. So maybe with Roy and a new philosophy and new faces around we will see something different, if not, we all know what we've got. I'm not expecting him to become Nani or Malouda trust me... I am a bit sarcastic which can be overlooked. If I was pleading the case for Lucas you could all stone me, I'd do it myself in fact..
cheers for now.