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I am not judging anything from this game- it's a pre season friendly- Hull were probably for more motivated by this game, a bit like a cup game a motivated team can beat a better team on the day, history is littered with examplesEmbarrassing? Yep. A wake up call to some players? Possibly, but I'll watch to see what happens when the real games start.Conclusion, I still think you guys are a credible threat to us.