If the doomsayers can just confirm something for me,are you saying that finishing in the top four is more important than cup wins? If so would you take the time between seasons 95/96 and 99/00 when although we finished in the top 4 every season we won cock all and dress it up as a more successful period than the 14 months Kenny has been in charge. If you ask a supporter the dates of trophy wins they will have a good chance of remembering them,can you remember where we came in93?,01? 98? 92? The old adage used to be "people don't remember runners up"I'm pretty sure they don't remember 3rd and 4th !