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I think Sahin could have succeeded perfectly at Arsenal, considering they are one walking team of weaklings and injuries, but honestly, I think he really could have had a better shot if he had been with us from the beginning of the summer..
The whole camp in the states with the heat, much like anywhere else that any top club travels to, was absolutely brutal, but vital, and I think many of our players have been beneficiary of it considering our realtively good overall health, and quite superb fitness levels..
He basically joined, slotted right in, had an immediate impact in 2 games, WBA cup match 2 goals, and a goal at Norwich, but then when more physical games and tighter fixtures arrived, he wasn't up to it.
It's sad because Madrid was the wrong move for him as well only because of their depth, and La Liga suits him, but as a football fan in general, and a bit of a Dortmund fan (Lewandowski), I'll be happy to see him go back and do well.
At least we tried... God knows how long half the board here would have been up in arms if we'd let him get away, whereas now, we lost money on wages
Side note on the comment of a left back.. while he's never coming back, I've tried to follow him a bit, and Insua is doing superb at Sporting Lisbon.. He's always going to be one of those "why did we let him go" players for me.. I don't think you ever give up on a young fullback who can bomb forward like he did with such energy, and just lacked experience and composure in tracking back only aged 20..
On your side note item for a left back I do sort of agree with you that we may have been hasty in letting Insua go, and for me we are light in the full back position. But if I could have one player back it would be Arbeloa. I know it’s very unlikely as he's now 29, and I have no idea what his situation is at Madrid, but someone who can competently play both Right back, Left back and center back would be a blessing right now.
In some ways we are bit spoiled with Johnson and Jose, but I do feel we really fall away in quality after those starters. I'm not running Wisdom down especially on the day he just signed his new contract. But we're securing his potential rather than his current form imo. Defensively I think he's done well, although a few times I've seen him out of position which has made me nervous, although one and one he's stood up well, but he does not bring much going forward the way Glen and Jose do.
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Dave think maybe we should be questioning the idea of overlapping fullbacks we need to tighten up at the back or we are going to get a shellacking off someone soon. I like Enrique when hes fit but I dont like the way he so often gets caught out of position when going fw he doesnt seem to have the same capacity as Glen to recover and get back quickly when necessary thus exposing us at the back. I prefer a good fullback who is great one on one with the man hes sposed to be marking that way hes doing his job and shutting down who hes sposed to be shutting down and let the wing backs get on with the"going forward" and being the supply line after all thats THEIR job.
I always questioned Insua for being too easy to turn but he was cracking going forward, he could have been coached to defend better as he grew. He would suit this system really well. We defo need a new left back, Enrique is amazing when fit but it is silly we don't have 2 competing with each other. Arbeloa was fantastic and still is, Jose loves him and plays him nearly all the time, it seemed so funny to see Marcelo in the world 11 when Arbeloa played in front of him more often then not!
That defence in terms of 'defending' was immense with Arbeloa - Carra - Agger - Aurelio, everything fell apart when we went bombing full backs and exposed Carra the next season.
We really could do with a left footed attacking full back to compete on the left, Danny Rose springs to mind as perfect but I think Spurs want him back.
I like Wisdom, think he could be quality, bit worried for him against Ashley young though.