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  • colin colin Jan 16, 2013 14:22 Flag

    Gazumped by Southampton again.

    mel...u get what u pay for...hopefully. Ive been saying its all down to the FSG and their partnership with BR...SUCCESS ON THE CHEAP OR...ITS NO SUCCESS AT ALL FOR US. Our only hope of having a serious shot at hitting the big time again is if FSG get an offer from a gulf state consortium with plenty of cash to splash. I hate to say this too but I think we are all deluding ourselves that we are anything but a team that is going to flounder around in the lower end of the upper half of the table or worse.....
    Allen Borini Sahin these are top drawer World Class signings ? We seem incapable of beating anyone in the upper half of the table BR is constantly bleating that we have a THIN SQUAD but surely if that was the case which it is then its up to him as manager to address this concern with the OWNERS !Not to be telling everybody and his dog in the sporting press here that that is the case. Then its up to FSG to get moving during this transfer window and rectify the managers problem ? Do u think John Henry in his open letter to the support was honest ? Liverpool FC as a franchise in the long run is always going to be a good hedge for their money it will never lose value as long as they hold on long enough they will make a very healthy profit on sale of the club to whoever...I just hope when they sell its to the likes of Billionaire Russian gangsters or Oil rich billionaires out of the Gulf...and please NO MORE YANKS !!!

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    • I don't know if anyone has done the sums, but it seems to me that your assumption that if they hang on long enough they'll make a profit might be a little wide of the mark.

      How much is the club worth on the open market right now?
      How much of their own money did FSG put in to clear our debt and buy the club?
      How much have they spent on transfers and wages so far with every window so far under their ownership having a positive net spend?
      How much has the club actually generated since they've been in charge with no champions league TV dosh?

      I'm not sure what that adds up to, and maybe someone can run the numbers, but it seems on first blush that they might have to wait a long time before they see any real return.

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      • I can put it in black and white but the wage bills are always difficult to put together

        Since FSG ownership

        Players in:
        Luis Suarez £22.8m
        Andy Carroll £35m
        Jordan Henderson £16.5m
        Charlie Adam £6.75m
        Doni £0m
        Stewart Downing £20m
        Jose Enrique £8m
        Sebastian Coates £7.6m
        Craig Bellamy £0m
        Fabio Borini £10.5m
        Joe Allen £15m
        Ousamma Assaidi £2.5m
        Samid Yesil £1m
        Daniel Sturridge £12m

        Total in £157.65m

        Players out:
        Fernando Torres £50m
        Charles Itandje £0m
        Ryan Babel £5.8m
        Paul Koncheskey £250k
        Milan Jovanovic £0m
        Nabil El Zhar £0m
        Soto Kyriagkos £0m
        Emiliano Insua £0m
        Christian Poulsen £0m
        David Ngog £4m
        Phillip Degen £0m
        Raul Meireles £12m
        Fabio Aurelio £0m
        Dirk Kuyt £1m (I know! Was his clause if not getting first team football)
        Maxi Rodriguez £0m
        Alberto Aquilani £6m
        Craig Bellamy £0m
        Charlie Adam £4m
        Joe Cole -£3m!

        Total out £80.05m

        Total FSG players spend £77.6m

        That is a fair few quid for 2 years of ownership. There is lots of factors to take into account though such as the reduction in wage bill, reduction in squad age, youth players in and out plus promoted to first team, players currently out on loan who will be sold this summer but either way, it is pretty clear that an average of £40m a year on players is a lot and probably about where we need to be.

        If you also account for the likeliness of us bringing at least one more player in this window it looks pretty healthy. Maybe some fans need to be a bit more realistic.

    • Yep no more Yanks as owners.. mega rich arabs are the only ones who'll make us how we'd like to be..

      Thats a club whose a dangerous threat to MANSHITTER UTD..

      Also get rid of Rodgers.. he never should've been made LFC manager.