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We don't have any cover at left back, I realise that Glen does a good job that side and that Wisdom is doing a steady if not enthralling role at right back but with Riise looking to be out of favour at Fulham, a loan to the end of the season could be a good deal.
Riise has always played for teams that allowed him to attack and play a little higher up the field, at Fulham, the back four is a bit more flat and doesnt really suit him. We need some cover but don't particularly need to buy a new lb plus we hear all this noise about experience being required.
Playing as a full back for us, he would get the freedom to roam forward and try and cause problems, something he was always very good at. I doubt this is likely to happen but I would love to see a couple more long rangers whilst we wait for Enrique to recover!
No no and 10 times no! I dont think he would strengthen us at all. Allow one of the reserves to fill in. I know some people have reservations if you'll pardon the pun, but getting regular games (at least 5 on the trot) makes them step up a gear. If they dont do it then, think of getting rid of them.
The only player I would be happy to see in a red shirt again would be Xabi Alonso, in my opinion the best player at the Euros last year and the best midfielder of his type in the world.
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I hear what your saying Loki, but what Alonso has to do with us having no left back is irrelevant. By the way, I think Xabi will be coming 'home' this summer, refusing to open contract negotiations with 18 months to run plus Gerrard/Alonso public flirting.
Riise might not be the answer but my point is that LB is a position we need cover in right now and we need some experience. It is 6 weeks till Enrique will be back and that is easily enough time to end our tiny, tiny top 4 hopes. Jack Robinson is so far away from being ready, it isn't really worth discussing. We saw what happened to Downing against Lennon, likewise we saw Wisdom go hiding against United. I am not berating any of them but they arent good enough if we have any hopes of acheiving something in the league this season.
LOKI...cant agree on the idea , particularly at this stage of the season that reserves such as Robinson should be risked in a 5 game consecutive run to see if they can step up a gear and make the grade.... what if they dont ? The they become a liability and can cost u valuable points as its a weak link u have started each of those games, To me better to start with experience at this point if u can and JAR is a known quantity and knows the drill at Anfield plus he was a very loyal clubman and has the right spirit dont think its nostalgia on my part just cold logic.
Loki...defo agree with u on XABI would luv to see him back in red !
I was well disappointed back when Benitez was shopping the lad out to anyone he thought might buy himthat season when he would have taken 15 mill for him.
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Ah, nostalgia. He scored some memorable goals against us:
- League cup 2005, first minute. Happily Gerrard equalised for us right at the end, thinking it was a trial.
- FA Cup semi-final 2006. (Dodgy free kick, mind, should never have been given.) Joe Cole missed a sitter for an equaliser near the end.
- Charity Shield 2006, nine minutes in, fine goal right in front of me.
And, of course, Champions League semi-final 2008 in which he made up for all of the above.
One of my all-time favourite Liverpool players - sign him up.
Definitely, I am incredibly nostalgic though, to a almost ridiculous level. King Kennys return, Fowlers return, Henry's return and The Rock returning to Raw (ahem!) is my cup of tea.
I jest, I think he would do a job, and a job, is all we need.
Really torn on this one Hobbs. On the one hand it would be nice to see him back, and never really liked the way he left the club with the cloud of the OG over him. Also despite being 32, the last time I watched him he seemed to have plenty of gas left in the tank.
However nostalgia really does cloud judgment sometimes, and sometimes it’s just not a good idea to look back, but keep forging forward instead.
We do need LB cover. With Jose down that means Glen has to come over to cover, with only Downing or Robison as alternatives, and sorry while the lad may mature I just don't see Jack as a real option yet. But for me that is a longer term issue rather than just the need for a short term fix via a loan. Jose has looked great when fit, even after a little dodgy start, however we need more competition than a winger and a kiddie to push him and for me that means bringing in a new player long term and that is not a 32 year old ex-player, even if we do miss him.
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I think you are probably right. My point though is that come the summer time we will surely be looking at bringing another left back in but I dont think they will be available for the right money now. Danny Rose has been my shout for sometime but there is obviously others knocking around, the continental players probably suit us well as they will be mostly attacking. Enrique is absolutely mustard for me, there is definitely fitness questions though.
Jack Robinson might go on to be an excellent little player but I think we are agreed he isn't ready yet, as is BR by his lack of selections. That is why I mention a loan, something to get us through this injury so we can solve it properly in the summer. Our only options are Glenn - great when Kelly is the other side but limits us against top teams with young Wisdom on the right, Downing - same again, only good against the weaker teams, Agger - not really quick enough to fill in to be honest.
I use Riise as an example as he is seemingly available but I wonder if that is somewhere BR is thinking about sorting? I hope so!
Col - I agree get the deal done - what's a coupla mil? I would prefer him to Coutinho for reasons already stated. What I meant was that is what the club will do, they will wait til the summer and any club doesnt want their prize asset in the last year of their contract, 9 times out of 10 they move on for peanuts - I mean, I would imagine he wouldn't sign another contract if it was offered - that would force Blackpool to sell and get as much bunce for him as possible. Perhaps that is our game plan?
If his dad has said that there is not much point moving on and not getting games I couldnt agree more, but surely we wouldnt buy him to put him in the reserves? After all, he is far superior to Sterling in my opinion. Getting rid of him was a joke and someone needs to hex Comolli, or whoever agreed to releasing him for buttons!
That's a good thought that I confess I hadn't thought of.
Buying Ince and loaning him back would be a good way of sealing the deal - I guess it depends on how much BR thinks he needs Ince in the first team right now.
psred...there is a stumbling block to these loan ideas...its called Karl Oyston. He is unquestionably the tightest Chairman of all 90 league clubs and Tom Ince is on a pittance of what he would be on with us and theres no way Oyston would pay that kind of wage if he was loaned back to them and of course oe very good reason Ince would want to sign for us is the huge increase inhis salary. I dobt the whole of the Blackpool starting 11 combined would be the salary Ince would be on with us...so unless Oyston has an Ebenezer Scrooge Xmas Carol type Epiphany I think good idea though it is better to wave it goodbye.
psred...not only loan him back could even offer for example if we take Ince now...to loan them NGOO instead of him going to Hearts Blackpool already have Nathan Eccleston from us maybe alsooffer Jack Robinson along with NGOO good for us good for them and we get Ince now ?
I don't think waiting till the summer is nescesarily an option. I was watching the footballers football show (best programme on tele, even better the galapagus!) last night and they had Paulo Souza, Paul Ince and Kevin Phillips on the show. There was about 20 mins about Tom Ince where the general impression was LFC made a bid, it wasn't accepted, they haven't come back but other clubs have. Paul made it clear he thinks it would be silly to move and not play games.
The most interesting segment was when it went to commercials, before the cut off, Paul was getting a bit flustered saying "I dont know why everyone thinks it's Liverpool, it's not Liverpool!".
To be honest, I think the answer is buy the lad and loan him back till the summer, send them Flanagan, Pacheco and Suso with wages paid and he can take Downings place in the squad next season.
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