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  • dsteer_lfc_68 dsteer_lfc_68 Feb 25, 2013 17:25 Flag


    Got to be honest this thread has me scratching my head a little. I know some do like to look on the darker side of things, and then come up with what if's, but does anyone have any evidence to support the dour outlook this thread portrays, or is it just wild speculation and guess work?

    Sure Suarez wants CL football, as do the rest of the squad, the club, the owners and all the supporters. I'm also sure if we don't in a reasonable period of time get back to the CL players like Suarez will be tempted to look at other clubs. But does anyone have any comment, and suggestion, any evidence at all that the time is this summer?

    The lad just signed a long term contract last summer; he's had nothing but good things to day about the city and the club. No one promised or even suggested that it was 4th or bust this season, so where is the link? How does two plus two equal 22!

    Same thing on the owners. Because one owner takes money out of a club does it mean our owners must be doing the same? Because they are American does it mean they must be shady? Does anyone have again any evidence because from the outside it look like they've spent clearing debt, spent in every transfer window, but maybe I'm missing something? Does someone have a secret memo, maybe a paper trail showing the deposits into a Swiss account, or maybe its again two plus two equals, well whatever you want it to!

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    • Hi Dave

      On the Suarez thing I don't think anyone has any evidence one way or another (unless they know him/his agent of course). I think people (including me) are thinking that it's a distinct possibility given that he's one of the best players in the country and our season has ended in failure (assuming that we don't go and get 4th of course!!!).

      He gave an interview a little while back which suggested that CL football this season wasn't the be all and end all - more that he wanted to see us progress as a club. My guess is if we finish the season strongly and he gets assurances of quality coming in then he'll stay - otherwise I think he'll go.

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      • Paddy...think if the owners are serious about hanging on to Louis then they would come right out now and state the fact and assure both him and the clubs world wide fan base that they the owners are determined to bolster the squad soon as the transfer window opens with the aquistion of Proven World Class talent and Im not talking here about 10mill quid Borini's !

      • Paddy I think your right we don't know, and no-one other than the player or those very close to him actually do, which is why I think it’s all really speculation. But my point is why assume the negative when there is little or no evidence to support it. In fact there maybe as much, or maybe quite a bit more to suggest the opposite.

        He signed a new long term deal last summer with a club that finished 8th, and let’s be honest had a horrible end to the season. He's also repeatedly said how much he loves both the club and city, and how much he wants to play for LFC and wants to be here a long time. And while some may think not finishing 4th is failure this summer, I'm not sure all see things that way, but will rather measure success based on if we've made progress toward the goal of returning to the top table in Europe and progressing to a point where we can challenge for the title. The real question is what is a realistic timeframe for that, for Senor Suarez.

        Personally I think as at some point he will tell himself he is good enough to play with and against the very best in Europe and if we cannot provide that he will look elsewhere. However I'm just not sure he'll give up on a plan he signed on to last summer, after just 12 months.

    • Dave all Im saying is that the owners are hard headed business men not besotted teenagers in love with LFC. All the sponsorship money who trousers that ? Yes the owners have spent money in the transfer windows since they bought us what top clubs owners havent ? BUT what about the money that has been incoming from those we have shipped out I have no idea what the balance is being honest about it BUT 50 mill from theTorres mugging of Chelski we cant classify as chump change no matter how and who it was reinvested in, money back on Charlie Adam money back out of the Aquillani sale and so on and so forth .All Im saying is look at all this and dont just consider the money they have spent ...Monies IN ...Monies OUT...thats your basic accountancy right ? This I feel is a far more realistic way of looking at just who and what our owners are rather than this dreamy idea that they are the most altruistic people inthe world ready to always dig deep to maintain our place at the top table of World Football without considering that they have found a very useful place to park their money in very difficult times for the world economy. They Know THE FRANCHISE LFC will always rise in value and give thema great return in the end game.

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      • Colin, I'm not sure where you’re getting your information from, but it does not seem to tally with what I've seen. I can understand a certain amount of frustration that we've not spent as much as you'd like, but a certain amount of realism is required I think. Otherwise you’re making things up or making assumptions based on a hunch rather than anything related to facts.

        The link might help you see things a little differently. That is not to say we should not put pressure on the owners to keep investing what the club earns to help us progress, but insulting them by saying they are trousering the cash, when there is no evidence that even hits at this, I'm not sure is the best way to go about that.