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  • Loki Loki Apr 28, 2013 11:37 Flag

    Coutinho - the best AM in the EPL?

    It's early days and I know I am jumping the gun, but is there a player with better vision than Coutinho? Mata perhaps - I'll accept that. I would love to see this boy behind the front 2, even though his is doing fantastically well on the left. Wait until he gets a pre-season behind him lads!

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    • Loki, totally agree with you. In fact, its a treat to watch him play. his vision and weight of the pass is exceptional. He creates chance from almost nowhere and some of the chances he created are beyond our imagination too... This guy is out of the world. He is the best in terms of creating chances and that too in very short time of arriving. I am sure we will see lot more from him next season

    • Let's not big the man up too much as he'll have a poor outing sooner or later and the boo boys will be writing him off. But I have to agree the signs are there for all to see.

      I'm not so sure however about the behind the front 2 however. Only because from Saturday I have to also give a lot of credit to Henderson who was the player interchanging with Coutinho allowing him to pop up in the middle with so much space. Between them they pulled the Newcastle RB so he did not know if he was coming or going forcing Taylor to decide if he should try and follow the young Brazilian, taking all shape out of the back line, or let him roam. So for me he's one of those players it really does not matter where he lines up, so long as the brief is to move to find space, and the players next to him and behind him fill in when needed.

      But I'd also add I don't think we've seen close to his best yet. First off the lad is only 20, so potentially has a lot more to learn as he matures as a player. But second I don't think the lad has completed a full 90 minutes since he's been with us, which suggests he's actually not fully fit. Maybe not surprising as he was not getting much playing time in Italy, plus there is a physical curve to get up moving to a faster more physical league. However after a full preseason of conditioning, I'm wondering if we might actually see another gear that he can move into.

    • He is looking pretty special so far, very excited to see how a full pre season will benefit him, he should fly next year. Don't know if he is better then those players but he can be our Mata/Silva/Carzola style playmaker. BR' signings seem to improve everytime, not too hard I guess having started with Borini!

      • 1 Reply to Hobitez
      • Let's not get carried away guys... He's "too small, short and lightweight"... err oops..

        He's got the ability, as you can see, to be world class, and while Oscar has gotten all the plaudits, granted he's been in England for longer, you can see why Coutinho will be equally as good, perhaps better and back into the Brazil squad.

        He has completed a full 90" 3 times already, so when he comes off, it's a matter of treating him like Sterling, though he's far more advanced having well over 100 appearances with Inter, Espanyol, Brazil and now LFC. From a Serie A point of view were: A- Inter didn't play him enough at all, or employ a system that suits him, and B- he's a little bit too quick and skilled with the ball to play there.. That might not make sense, there's no room for all the dribbling skills with the slower pace and emphasis/skill of defending. But he's finding it for fun so far in England.. Time in Italy def helped him.

        He can basically play anywhere along the front 3/4 & once he adds more goals to his locker, anyone who had any ridiculous comments about him prior to arriving, or after 1-2 avg. games will feel really silly... And, regarding strength, if anyone recalls his second assist, he shoulder barged Ben Arfa (similar size yes, stronger, experienced no) to the ground, won the ball and side footed his pass into Sturridge.. It was World all the way around.

        Imagine if we'd gotten him in the summer?!? Hard to say this or that, but if he'd come on, stayed fit, you could only ponder the assists/goals he'd have or created by now.. Sigh..

    • He is certainly top notch when the opposition give him time and space to play. It will be interesting to see how he fares in the Derby against Evertons "style".

      • 1 Reply to RonJ
      • I believe that your suggestion of "style" by Everton probably was meant sarcastically, Ron , and that you rather expect them to try to try to bully him with physical play. Lets hope they do indeed try that tactic. The lad has been outstanding in his brief time here , he is destined for greatness........ as a provider he lays the ball off beautifully for brilliant strikes on the net. Good thread , Loki.