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I agree with that, but think their best hope is to bring in Martinez who I think is about their only hope of keeping the better players they have, and keeping them at least in the top half. But got a feeling no matter who is in charge their will be a clear out of staff at Goodison.
Your all talking bolux as usual.
isn't it hilarious how you are awaiting the so called demise of Everton, by selling their best players, or Spurs so you can now overtake us both, rather than do it on your own merit
for the 2nd SEASON IN A ROW, Everton have PROVED they are a better team, with vastly reduced resources.
Is this down to Moyes, yes probably, he was agood manager, not a great oone, that's all.
I said 3 months ago, LFC would overtake Everton next season and that is due to a front line of Coutinho, Sturridge & Suarez...............nothing to do with what other teams do.
Stubbs as manager, Ferguson as assistant, that's it in a nutshell
Baines will stay , Fellaini will be sold
Whats the score on the doors boys...................hahahahahhahahhaahhaha
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Your absolutely right, if as many of us expect Everton to fall away next season because they can't hold on to 2 or 3 of their better players, and because you'll be lucky to find as good a manager as you've had in Moyes it will be us go ahead of you because your going in the other direction. But don't fool yourself into thinking the last two seasons you've finished above us because some how Everton have become a better club. The simple fact is we've been the one falling and its only in the last season or so that we've been crawling our way back.
Moyes's success has not been that he's made the Blues better in the last couple seasons, its that he's been extremely consistent on a budget, and kept Everton not just in the top half but pushing for Europa slots. Not a bad achievement, but not a sign of greatness. Whether he can be a great manager will be decided over the next couple seasons when he's been given the resources to manage at a higher level, but for me its very much an open question.
But hey even you admit that LFC is on the rise, with your prediction of 3 months ago, so what are you really trying to say?
titter ye not, but it would not suprise me to see the second coming to Merseyside of a certain Rafa Benitez. Managing Chelsea was unusual but to manage Everton.....well, that really would take the biscuit! Fun times ahead!
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Ron ...think u very well might be right on the Benitez guess. He has done very well for Chelski as an "interim" manager and may leave on a high by winning Europa Cup..woumldnt be surprised to see Everton offer him the post...BUT for all his proclaimed love for us do u think hed accept it ?
I have to say, I don't know why MArtinez is so highly rated. Yes, he started Swansea off playing that football but he didnt make them win with it. He has been at Wigan a few years and they have relegation fights every season and will go down this time around. He makes them play great football but they have an awful defence. Personally I am happier with Brenda. I can't see how you could go into that Everton side and try to go 3-4-3, they are built for war, they would be better off with Sam Allardyce or Alan Curbishley!
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Hobs..would have much prefered Martinez to Brenda if Martinez goes toEverton end of season then if FSG dig deep and make the serious investment thats needed to give us that cutting edge we lack right now we will see just who is the better manager as I cant see Everton investing heavily as can see them selling but not reinvesting all the money as theyd need to...Bill Kenwright is way too tight .
I agree with you that we got the better man between BR and JM, however I do have to give the Spaniard some credit. Yes Wigan are in a relegation fight every year, but in all honestly, and I mean this with respect, Wigan Athletic have no business being in the prem, let alone surviving every year.
On the clash of styles I think that is a valid point however I do think part of Moyes' success is he always found a little bit of quality for his side in the likes of Baines, Pienaar, or a Mirallas. Its that type of player who is just a little more creative that separates them imo from the WHU or Stoke's of the league. And, it's likely it those kind of players (an any like them emerging from the youth system) that will be first to go as they can, and Everton may need the funds those kind of players can attract.
But that is the second point where I have to give Martinez credit. Yes most talk about his style of football, and how he's calm under pressure come the business end of the season, but I think his biggest attribute, and what Everton will need most, is what he does in preseason. Consistently he finds those under-priced diamonds in the rough. They may not all be top draw players, but good enough to add that quality which is the difference from surviving in the prem, and going on the long slide to the lower divisions.