Sunderland Message Board
- AndyPandy AndyPandy Jan 25, 2013 16:14 Flag
I agree with Wenger that summer is a better time to buy players. However, we actually made a significant profit in the transfer market last summer and the summer before. So we don't truly ever strengthen the squad. We always rely on strengthening from within. As usual we all wonder where the profits are going. Not on players that much is for certain.
- AndyPandy AndyPandy Jan 19, 2013 05:40 Flag
Yeah Theo is laughing. In my view the signing on fee swung it. But it is better than him leaving on a free. And we now have a good British core to build upon.
- AndyPandy AndyPandy Jan 13, 2013 17:00 Flag
If Wenger has loads of money why not strengthen the squad? The board and Wenger are taking the piss. Now if we enter the transfer market we do so from a position of weakness. Not being in the CL will cost alot more than buying a couple of decent players and offering Walcott 100 million a week. I supported Wenger for years, believing he would start to invest once the good financial times arrived. He never did. The board and Wenger lie to the fans and players. No wonder players eventually leave. Why come to Arsenal? Perhaps for the wages or for game time, but right now we are not a place for talented players who want to win something. It's not even good business.
Yes Arsenal are making profits, which never seem to get reinvested. So Wenger manages to turn loyal supporters against him. Well done. It feels like he wants to make everything about him, and what he wants, and the manner he wants to win stuff. He doesn't base decisions on the reality that in general the better players cost more and occasionally one needs to splash out.
Not a great day for Arsenal, get ready for Wenger to blame everyone else. Get your cheque book out man. Please.
- AndyPandy AndyPandy Jan 3, 2013 18:32 Flag
Will the transfer talk finally result in a couple of quality signings?
Each time we are let down trust is deminished. By the way that would be three is Walcott goes. Personally, I think quality signings is the best way to keep Walcott at The Arsenal.
- AndyPandy AndyPandy Jan 2, 2013 12:25 Flag
Theo maybe polite and articulate, but he looks after number one. I think he wants to leave on a free and cash in. He has the strker role now after all. Having said that if Wenger strengthened elsewhere while he waits for Theo's decision, it might persuade him to stay. I think most fans expect this to drag on, doing Arsenal no good in the process. The January transfer window must be a success or the same old discussions will go on. If every window Arsenal have money to spend but end up making more profits, then we are being taken for a bunch of twats. In the end the most loyal will even turn on Wenger and the board. Please strengthen our squad Professor.
- AndyPandy AndyPandy Dec 13, 2012 12:12 Flag
Getting top four for ages, while spending less net than practically every other team in the league is amazing Wenger can be rightly proud of that stat, which yes proves he knows more than many give him credit for.
However, right now with the January transfer window coming he could improve the team with the money, which is clearly available to him.
If he refuses to do so once again, let's find someone who will.
To be honest, I understand the enjoyment Utd, Chelsea and City fans get out of Arsenal's self-inflicted troubles, but really we are not financially uncomparable. The new financial rules should have closed the gap with the flush three. Yes their spending is being tempered, however we continue to pile up transfer profits, property profits, improved ticket revenue and now improved commericial deals. All to the tune of 150 million plus in the bank. Surely that rainy day is fast approaching in January, when Wenger dusts of his wallet and splashes the cash!!!
By the way that is nothing to do with the recent sponsorship deal. Just money in the bank. In January we will see if Wenger and the club have ambition, which means spending money on better players. Or whether that turns out to be hot air again from Wenger and the board. I will give Wenger until the end of January, but if we don't spend at least 20 million plus any money from sales. I will finally have lost patience with Wenger. I can't support a manager that window after window, won't use the money AVAILABLE to improve the squad. Wenger please give Arsenal and yourself a fighting chance.
I think it can pretty much be summed up with; please can we buy 2 or 3 quality players in January with the profits Arsenal continue to make. In order, to give hope to players, fans, coaches, potential sponsors etc.
And ofcourse we won't believe the answer anyway. 'We have to the money to spend and will buy players if the right quality players become available.' Which actually should read the money is staying in the bank, and we expect to off load Walcott, if our position in the league is really poor we may be forced into buying someone not on the City, Utd, Chelsea radar.
I would love it if Wenger used the money he has squirrelled away. We can't expect to make a transfer profit every window and still compete. Wenger making the top four year after year is a miracle, what could be possible if Arsenal actually invested money in the side?
- AndyPandy AndyPandy Sep 25, 2012 19:09 Flag
Comment from a Gooner. Fletcher proving great, and on paper Sessegon, Larsson, McClean, Johnson, Gardner, Frazier, Colback, Saha and Wickham should chip in with goals. Hopefully, you start turning a few of those draws into wins. Remember you are undefeated, 3 points against Southampton and a match in hand against Reading, and your season will look a lot brighter.
- AndyPandy AndyPandy Sep 16, 2012 00:10 Flag
John, City can barely cover the cost of their wage bill let alone the cost of transfers ditto Chelsea. Wait for their accounts to come out in a few weeks. Which don't even include the summer shopping spree, City spent 35 million net and Chelsea 79 million net.
- AndyPandy AndyPandy Sep 14, 2012 13:09 Flag
Oh simple Eric. My thought is that mega rich clubs inflate the price of quality players. Agreed. This along with mega wages quickly means FFP rules are broken. Agreed. Therefore, they have to apply the brakes. Agreed. As a result, those clubs with money in the bank and which have posted profits are left in a advantageous position, a feeling, which is a new to Gooners.
Ofcourse, there will be plenty of wriggle room. But it will put a massive brake on certain clubs. Not Utd or Arsenal because we are generally in profit. So I think Chelsea and City will find that Platini soon let's them know they are pretty much spent up for the first three years cycle.
That's my opinion, I may well turn out to be wrong. As you know it wouldn't be the first time.
Unlike Wenger I am not an economist. However, I was just wondering if the sugar daddy clubs turn in losses of 100 million plus each over the next year and receive a letter from Platinii and co requesting them to stop splashing the cash. What happens to the price of quality players? Could it just be that those clubs which prudently built up a cash mountain, and actually made profits, find themselves able to pick and choose players come 2013/14? Without the competition of City, Chelsea, PSG etc
- AndyPandy AndyPandy May 26, 2012 10:08 Flag
Marintii strange things happen in football !!! You are right to point out the youthful potential in the squad, and the financial strength of the club especially under the new financial fair play rules. As you imply let's see if these rules are enforced.
Even without a new manager a few good signings would transform our team, with a little added steel from Mr Bould. Let's hope that the financial fair play rules impact the spending of City, Utd and Chelsea because at the end of the day it is no accident that the richest three clubs have been dividing up the spoils. Yes, I know we haven't helped matters by spending less than nothing recently.
Let's hope for bigger and better 2012-2013. Who knows even Pep could be at the Emirates!!!
- AndyPandy AndyPandy May 25, 2012 12:09 Flag
Raider you bring up an important point about blooding youth. Some players like Fab, Wilshere, Szczesny are the easy ones as they pretty much go straight into the team. Most other youngsters at Arsenal will be dipped in and out of the team, but there is a temptation to rely on the experienced players which means a lack of match time. Therefore we over play the experienced core of players which is no good for Arsenal. The truth is Arsenal can only guess which youngsters will make it, so loaning players out gives us a chance for players to learn their trade and prove themselves without hurting Arsenal's results.
In general I think the first team needs more ready made players. And the youngsters need game time on loan to gain experience and confidence. However, it is about balance because you do want talented youth players to have the opportunity to come through so you can't have too many players blocking their ways.
Actually, with your lack of spending policy one thing is a certainty youth will always get a chance at Arsenal !!!
- AndyPandy AndyPandy May 24, 2012 13:04 Flag
The thing is should wallet size determine everything. If sugar daddys had less of an influence we might see Moyes, O'neill, Pardew win trophies. Wow what a breath of fresh air that would be.
And Spursbabe this year with new rules you would have made the CL. Do you really enjoy watching a starting 11 and bench bought for over 300 million playing another team worth less than a tenth. And the pundit saying 'Wow what a great manager for bringing on 100 million pounds worth of talent' and then analysing where the team in the bottom half of the table went wrong with their cobbled together team. Yes there will always be a divide but I would like that divide to be a little less.
I do understand that the Financial Fair Play rules don't sort out everything. But at least it is an attempt to reduce the present craziness.
- AndyPandy AndyPandy May 24, 2012 12:30 Flag
Raider I like your idea of points deductions that would really hurt, and could allow well run clubs a shot european competitions. An alternative is to let them know they have gone into debt by X over the limit. And have to make it up in the next transfer window.
- AndyPandy AndyPandy May 24, 2012 12:14 Flag
Very interesting reading. Thanks for that. The big question is will the rules be enforced. What is certain is that many mega-rich owners have agreed to the rules for everyone else, but are going to push FIFA's rules in respect of their own club.
These warning letters need to be sent out early on and be made public. Not after three years of accounts.
Yes in theory Arsenal should not be left with the scraps anymore.
City and Chelsea look like they are gonna smash the limit of 54 million in additional debts over the next three years, this summer alone. We all know they will still make losses in the hundreds of millions in the next 3 years. So any thoughts on what their punishments should be?