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- Man_United_Raj Man_United_Raj Apr 17, 2012 09:39 Flag
LOL!!! Same old dumbass Slayer.
So when Barca got beat by Getafe and Bayern by Mainz.........in fact, whats't the point in debating with a no-nothing fuckwit like you anyway?
Carry on dumbo.
- Man_United_Raj Man_United_Raj Apr 11, 2012 09:50 Flag
Hmmm, I dunno, devon. There might be a bit of pot, kettle and black with regards to indulging wayward players. Fergie did indulge Cantona a lot during his time with us. There was a time in the mid-90's when Cantona, despite his brilliance, was a ticking timebomb on the pitch. Stamping on players' chests, elbowing them, kicking out at them even after fair challenges, ridiculous tackles etc. Not gonna count THAT incident at Palace because I believe that mouthy Palace supporter got what he asked for, but the kick out at Shaw that led to his red card in that game was as "Balloteli-esque" as it gets.
I really have nothing against managers trying to turn around wayward footballers. Fergie managed that with Cantona in the end and look at Rooney. There was a time where he could barely got two games without getting a silly booking. But his conduct this season has been exemplary. It all depends on the manager in my opinion. Mancini simply isn't strong or authoritative enough to control Balotelli. Though, even Fergie would struggle these days. But the Fergie of 15 years ago would have had him towing the line in no time.
- Man_United_Raj Man_United_Raj Apr 11, 2012 09:37 Flag
FFS!!! Who cares?? JESUS! Talk about missing the point of my post.
YES!!! Hansen knows more about winning titles than any of us here do since none of us here have ever been professional footballers. BUT it is not "arrogant" to disagree with his opinions.
And in my OPINION (which, I agree, is NOT coming from a title winning background like the almighty Alan Hansen), I think he is way off calling the current United team the worst in recent memory. I still think we have a fantastic squad that is missing just one or two pieces of the complete jigsaw.
- Man_United_Raj Man_United_Raj Apr 10, 2012 11:02 Flag
EDIT: "This was the person who said Man United played better football since we sold RONALDO just last year before the European Cup Final."
- Man_United_Raj Man_United_Raj Apr 10, 2012 10:57 Flag
LOL!!! Alan Hansen. The guy who just 3 months ago predicted that City would win the title at a canter (WRONG) and win the League Cup (WRONG!!) and predicted LIVERPOOL to win the title in 2008/2009 right after we had won the European Cup (WRONG again).
We don't have to know more about football or winning titles to have our own OPINIONS. And that's all Hansen (plus Sky, BBC etc. etc.) does; give opinions. And the fact that almost 90% of his predictions turn out to be jack shit really emphasises how much the game changed from when Hansen was winning titles in the 70's and 80's. In footballing terms, he's a dinosaur. He probably can't appreciate that expensive, world class signings in a shambles and unbalanced squad is no match for a balanced and united squad like Manchestr United.
If you want to belive that, if we win our 20th League Title, it will be 100% down to other teams imploding then go right ahead. It's your opinion and you are entitled to it. But don't come on here calling supporters like me "arrogant" for having a different opinion to so called "experts" like Hansen who have been getting it wrong for many a year. I reckon it is just sour grapes from these lot who are having difficulty fathoming how United just won't go away even with a so called inferior squad. I assume you would count Josep Guardiola as an "expert" right? This was the person who said Man United played better football since we sold United last year. Of course, you will just interpret this as mind games, but it was his opinion nonetheless.
My take: I think we have a fantastic squad of players that will get better and better. In Valencia, I believe we have the finest Right Winger in the world (and just before you start frothing at the mouth, Ronaldo is no longer a winger). In Rooney we have one of the very best No.10's in the world and in Vidic we still have the world's best central defender. In Jones, Smalling and Cleverley we have some of the finest young players in England and in De Gea I think we have the future Spanish No.1 if he keeps improving the way he has. Then we have a tremendous set of backup/starting players in Nani, Ashley Young, Rafael and Chicharito who are all in their early to mid-twenties.
If we can add one (perferably two) world class central midfielders to the squad next season then we will have a team to challenge for yet another European Cup.
This is NOT the "worst United team in recent memory" by ANY stretch of the imagination, regardless of what sour dickheads like Hansen say.
- Man_United_Raj Man_United_Raj Apr 9, 2012 09:58 Flag
100% Agreed, Jim!
If we are 7pts or more clear by the time we head to the Arab Stadium, then Citeh will be playing for nothing but pride. Without "Why Always Me?" Byeotelli, who would have been a cert to start (despite his suspect temperament) because of his performance at Old Trafford and armed with a defence that's suddenly leaking goals even with Kompany back in the ranks.
This is the perfect scenario for United to go there and hammer in the final nail. "You were good kid, real good. But so long as I'm around, you'll always be second best see?"
- Man_United_Raj Man_United_Raj Apr 4, 2012 10:10 Flag
Can't resist :)
There was a man from Fulham
His name was John Strathair
He started supporting Chelsea
When they were bought by a Billionaire
He bought a new season ticket
Like a proper Southern Fairy
He got to the Bridge for the first time ever
And asked "Which Blue is Henry?"
- Man_United_Raj Man_United_Raj Apr 2, 2012 12:25 Flag
This isn't a debate, it's fucking retarted.
This entire "paper" is based on assumptions. And you know what they say about assumptions don't you?
Case example: Newcastle 4-4 Arsenal
74mins: Legitimate Best goal disallowed that would make the score 4-4.
82mins: Penalty given that was not a penalty for Newcastle to make it 4-4.
Assumption: No change to final result (ie. it evened out).
What a complete pile of horseshit. How about IF the Best goal was given and Newcastle had all the momentum for the last 15+mins (after all, confidence is EVERYTHING in football right?) then isn't it reasonable to assume they would have scored the winner to beat Arsenal 5-4 IF they had the extra 8mins to do it in? Bollocks right? Too right it's bollocks, just like this so called "proof" that Man Utd would have had 9 less points.
Then the whole "Gary Neville being sent off would have guaranteed Stoke victory (not even a draw, but DEFINITE VICTORY). Case in point is our match against Bolton last season where we played with 10 men against Bolton while the score was still 0-0 and still managed to win in the end. We were down to 10 men against Liverpool a few seasons back when Paul Scholes was sent off with the score at 0-0 and Liverpool battered us with attack after attack with their one man advantage. But what happened? The 10 mean of United score an injury time winner at the Kop End to complete a famous smash and grab.
Then all this shite about penalties given that shouldn't have been given and vice versa. This is down to individual opinions. MANY Chelski fans will go blue int he face trying to convince everyone that THAT ball that struck Eto'o near the arm pit in THAT semi final against Barca was a STONEWALL penalty while many neutrals will agree that it was never a pen. If given, Chelski would have faced us in the 2009 Final instead of Messi's Barca and we probably would have won the CL Final that year in Rome as the Man Utd team was superior. This in turn might have led to Ronaldo staying with Man Utd instead of going to Real.....blah blah blah!! Assumptions are STUPID.
The only thing that can be said as FACT is that Football is UNPREDICTABLE. Games that teams lost with 11 men on the field could have been won instead if they were reduced to 10 men forcing them to shut up shop and relying on a lucky counter attack.
So stop with all this stupid nonsense already.
- Man_United_Raj Man_United_Raj Apr 1, 2012 10:45 Flag
I'd still like to see Evans and Jones as the long term Central Defensive partnership. Jonesy is just a bit rough around the edges and a little overexhuberant in going forward, but he is by far the most talented young defender in the country in my opinion. I think next season, we'll see the very best of him.
As for replacing Scholes/Keano, we were ALMOST there this season with Cleverley and Pogba. If it wasn't for that BASTARD Kevin Davies who completely ruined Tom's fantastic start to the season, Scholesy might still be on retirement. And if it wasn't for Pogba's BASTARD agent turning his head towards Italy, Pogba could have played as many games in this season as Cleverley. And let's not forget about Ando. He was turning in brilliant performance after brilliant performance until Tom was injured.
I think buying one more quality Central Midfielder (Defensive or Attacking) wouldn't go amiss though.
- Man_United_Raj Man_United_Raj Mar 27, 2012 09:46 Flag
Indeed, it's all swings and roundabouts. For last night, all it does is make up for that bullshit penalty that was awarded at Old Trafford earlier this season against Newcastle that cost us 2 points when Ben Arfa took a dive against Rio.
I'm sure Rob was up in arms after those two dodgy goals awarded to Chelski against Tottenham last season that kept them in the title hunt.
- Man_United_Raj Man_United_Raj Mar 25, 2012 19:08 Flag
Loving the confidence, Chris, but I still believe in not counting my chickens until they have hatched.
Though I will say that goal difference won't mean jackshit now. It's all about points and I will be VERY surprised if by the time we take to the field to face Citeh, we would still need to beat Citeh to stay top of the table.
Was at the game last night and although the result was disappointing, the game itself was a brilliant watch. Naive defending cost us big time yet again, but De Gea was brilliant between the sticks. But for him, this game would have been dead and buried already.
But, as the title of the thread suggested, I take my hat off to Bilbao. What a team and what a performance. You can talk all you want about Man United being flat and not taking the Europa League too seriously, but for my money, that was the best performance I have seen from an away team at Old Trafford in Europe for almost 10 years. The last time I saw a performance that good was Real Madrid in 2003.
If we are to have any hope in this tie, we will more than likely have to produce one of our best ever away performances.
- Man_United_Raj Man_United_Raj Mar 7, 2012 10:11 Flag
Last night was one of those very rare occurences when I was actually cheering Arsenal on.
I tuned in to watch a professional Italian job with AC Milan trying to demoralise Arsenal by keeping ball and sneaking away after a 1 or 2 nil defeat and winning confortably on aggregate. But full credit to Arsenal. They absolutely bombarded Milan's defence and had them running scared. Playing the Ox and Walcott in the same team was a big signal of intent too. And I must admit, I was rooting for Arsenal at the start of the 2nd half and was swearing my arse off at Van Persie for fluffing THAT chance.
Unlucky, and well played.
- Man_United_Raj Man_United_Raj Mar 5, 2012 11:03 Flag
It was a HUGE win. And make no mistakes about it, the Man Citeh players, staff and supporters were praying for any sort of dropped points at White Hart Lane from us yesterday and many of them probably had a draw as the very least Spurs were gonna get.
When a team refuses to "go away" like we are, the pressure builds and builds. If Citeh can handle it, then fairplay to them. But I have a feeling they will crack. There is no substitute for experience :)
- Man_United_Raj Man_United_Raj Feb 27, 2012 10:48 Flag
Very good show from De Gea. Commanding during corners, great shot stopping and looked a lot more confident when dealing with crosses. Deserved a clean sheet, but there wasn't anything he (or any keeper) could do with that shot from Holt.
Still looks too thin though.
- Man_United_Raj Man_United_Raj Feb 24, 2012 13:00 Flag
Too harsh in my opinion, jim.
The team I'd like to see take to the field is:
Jones Ferdinand Evans Evra
Nani Carrick Cleverley Young
And I reckon they will get all 3 pts.
But I have a feeling Giggs might start ahead of Young/Nani and Scholes ahead of Cleverley
- Man_United_Raj Man_United_Raj Feb 24, 2012 12:15 Flag
Hit the nail on the head there. Marketing and overseas commercial revenue was EXACTLY the reason Park was given the Captain's armband last night.
It had absolutely NOTHING to do with the fact that Park was the most senior United player to start the game.