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One of the beauties of sport is that it populates its landscape with young people dreaming of making it into the big time. Among its darkest aspects is the violation of those dreams by predators who see aspiration as a vulnerability they can exploit. From the depravity of Barry Bennell right down to the spiv who tries to get rich on the back of a child’s talent, young people are in need of protection by families, institutions, vigilant individuals and of course the rule of law, which has caught up with Bennell – jailed at Liverpool Crown Court for 30 years for abusing 12 young footballers between 1979 and 1991. Those protective structures failed abysmally for a generation of children who were defenceless against Bennell’s brazen and routine sex crimes, which, as the court heard, occurred on an “industrial scale.” As we know from the Jimmy Savile case and others, this level of sexual criminality is not possible unless those with the power to stop it are blinded by the perpetrator or place their own self-interest first. In this case, parts of the Football Association, Manchester City and Crewe Alexandra – in that period – refused or failed to see Bennell’s interest in scouting and coaching was incidental to his main reason for working in football. His chief purpose was to gain access to children. He played a double game to satisfy his appetites, conning the clubs into thinking he was a talent-spotter par excellence and the children and their families into believing he held the key to a future in the game. The NSPCC’s statement after sentencing pointed out that Bennell “ruthlessly preyed on the hopes and aspirations of young footballers who believed he held the key to their dreams”. Procedures are much tighter in football now. Awareness has improved exponentially since the Seventies, Eighties and Nineties. Yet, as the many recent welfare-in-sport scandals have demonstrated, there is still a phase in which young people are vulnerable if they have not attained full adulthood or the power that comes with success. That stage of life, where children are most open to being exploited, is the one that requires the most careful policing, because sex offenders are drawn to professions in which they have access to, and can exploit the ambitions of, young people. Thus it falls not only to governing bodies but also coaches, parents – all of us, in fact – to recognise the danger signs and intervene, as opposed to merely muttering our concerns. From Bennell’s perspective, reptilian deceit was effective. One member of City’s staff called him “the star-maker”. Concerns raised by Len Davies at City and Hamilton Smith at Crewe gained no real traction. Now, a further 86 alleged victims have reportedly come forward, which accentuates one of the truly shocking features of this tragedy: the impunity with which Bennell abused children, and the breadth of his crimes, in homes, holiday camps, football clubs and even on the pitch at Maine Road. The FA have a responsibility to show negligence and complicity have consequences Only the victims who came forward to testify can know how long the “relief” will last. And relief was certainly the most conspicuous first response. No quest for justice – even one so obviously grounded in fact – guarantees the kind of outcome that exposed Bennell’s sadism and perversion. The first emotion, one assumes, is one of vindication. The lie has been broken. An expectation now, however, is that thoughts will turn quickly to those who excused Bennell’s paedophilia, looked the other way, or facilitated it in ways that require them to be held to account. Lord Carlile, one of the country’s leading legal figures, has said Bennell’s behaviour was “brushed under the carpet” by Crewe. These failures, where they existed, cannot be marked down as unfortunate accidents. The victims are entitled to justice from football as well as the legal system. The FA bear a responsibility in their forthcoming report to show that negligence and complicity have consequences, not least for the FA of that time. The societal nature of this crime was grimly apparent when a “Cambridge-educated” geophysicist from a “privileged” background, Matthew Falder, was jailed for 32 years at Birmingham Crown Court after admitting 137 offences including blackmail, voyeurism, encouraging child rape and sharing indecent images – on the same day Bennell began his latest prison sentence. Football is not uniquely blighted by child sex abuse, and its safeguards now are better. But in all cases it needs to think first of child protection, of child welfare, and punish those who have failed in that duty.
Why it is all our duty to prioritise child safety
One of the beauties of sport is that it populates its landscape with young people dreaming of making it into the big time. Among its darkest aspects is the violation of those dreams by predators who see aspiration as a vulnerability they can exploit. From the depravity of Barry Bennell right down to the spiv who tries to get rich on the back of a child’s talent, young people are in need of protection by families, institutions, vigilant individuals and of course the rule of law, which has caught up with Bennell – jailed at Liverpool Crown Court for 30 years for abusing 12 young footballers between 1979 and 1991. Those protective structures failed abysmally for a generation of children who were defenceless against Bennell’s brazen and routine sex crimes, which, as the court heard, occurred on an “industrial scale.” As we know from the Jimmy Savile case and others, this level of sexual criminality is not possible unless those with the power to stop it are blinded by the perpetrator or place their own self-interest first. In this case, parts of the Football Association, Manchester City and Crewe Alexandra – in that period – refused or failed to see Bennell’s interest in scouting and coaching was incidental to his main reason for working in football. His chief purpose was to gain access to children. He played a double game to satisfy his appetites, conning the clubs into thinking he was a talent-spotter par excellence and the children and their families into believing he held the key to a future in the game. The NSPCC’s statement after sentencing pointed out that Bennell “ruthlessly preyed on the hopes and aspirations of young footballers who believed he held the key to their dreams”. Procedures are much tighter in football now. Awareness has improved exponentially since the Seventies, Eighties and Nineties. Yet, as the many recent welfare-in-sport scandals have demonstrated, there is still a phase in which young people are vulnerable if they have not attained full adulthood or the power that comes with success. That stage of life, where children are most open to being exploited, is the one that requires the most careful policing, because sex offenders are drawn to professions in which they have access to, and can exploit the ambitions of, young people. Thus it falls not only to governing bodies but also coaches, parents – all of us, in fact – to recognise the danger signs and intervene, as opposed to merely muttering our concerns. From Bennell’s perspective, reptilian deceit was effective. One member of City’s staff called him “the star-maker”. Concerns raised by Len Davies at City and Hamilton Smith at Crewe gained no real traction. Now, a further 86 alleged victims have reportedly come forward, which accentuates one of the truly shocking features of this tragedy: the impunity with which Bennell abused children, and the breadth of his crimes, in homes, holiday camps, football clubs and even on the pitch at Maine Road. The FA have a responsibility to show negligence and complicity have consequences Only the victims who came forward to testify can know how long the “relief” will last. And relief was certainly the most conspicuous first response. No quest for justice – even one so obviously grounded in fact – guarantees the kind of outcome that exposed Bennell’s sadism and perversion. The first emotion, one assumes, is one of vindication. The lie has been broken. An expectation now, however, is that thoughts will turn quickly to those who excused Bennell’s paedophilia, looked the other way, or facilitated it in ways that require them to be held to account. Lord Carlile, one of the country’s leading legal figures, has said Bennell’s behaviour was “brushed under the carpet” by Crewe. These failures, where they existed, cannot be marked down as unfortunate accidents. The victims are entitled to justice from football as well as the legal system. The FA bear a responsibility in their forthcoming report to show that negligence and complicity have consequences, not least for the FA of that time. The societal nature of this crime was grimly apparent when a “Cambridge-educated” geophysicist from a “privileged” background, Matthew Falder, was jailed for 32 years at Birmingham Crown Court after admitting 137 offences including blackmail, voyeurism, encouraging child rape and sharing indecent images – on the same day Bennell began his latest prison sentence. Football is not uniquely blighted by child sex abuse, and its safeguards now are better. But in all cases it needs to think first of child protection, of child welfare, and punish those who have failed in that duty.
A judge at Liverpool Crown Court branded the ex-Manchester City and Crewe Alexandra youth coach "sheer evil" as he announced his punishment
Ex-football coach Bennell labelled 'devil incarnate' and sentenced to 31 years
A judge at Liverpool Crown Court branded the ex-Manchester City and Crewe Alexandra youth coach "sheer evil" as he announced his punishment
Manchester City and Crewe Alexandra are under mounting pressure to make public apologies to Barry Bennell’s victims amid further accusations they failed to stop him sexually abusing countless boys. One of the lawyers representing survivors of serial paedophile Bennell, who was convicted on Thursday of a total of 43 child sexual abuse offences, condemned the two clubs’ responses to this week’s guilty verdicts. City and Crewe, the professional teams with whom Bennell has been most closely linked, both issued statements following the conclusion of a trial that has brought further shame on the game. But, despite the emergence of fresh allegations they ignored warnings about a man described as football’s Jimmy Savile, neither club admitted any responsibility for his crimes as they braced themselves for a wave of compensation claims from his victims. Dino Nocivelli, one of the country's leading lawyers representing child abuse survivors - including a substantial number of ex-footballers - told The Daily Telegraph that City and Crewe’s responses were “just not good enough”. Andy Woodward, the man who blew the whistle on football's paedophile scandal, speaks to the press Credit: PA “I would have hoped for City and Crewe to have admitted some element of blame for their close connections to Bennell,” he said. “It’s not about them; it’s about survivors. They need to admit their failings.” Andy Woodward, the man who blew the whistle on football’s paedophile scandal 15 months ago, has also demanded apologies from the clubs involved. City declined to expand on the statement they issued on Thursday in which they expressed their “heartfelt sympathy” to Bennell’s victims, who they said were “entitled to expect full protection from the kind of harm they endured”. The club was expected to say more following the conclusion of a QC-led review it commissioned into allegations of child sexual abuse there. Manager Pep Guardiola did discuss the outcome of Bennell’s trial at a press conference on Friday to preview the club’s FA Cup tie at Wigan Athletic. Pep Guardiola discusses the outcome of Barry Bennell’s trial at a press conference Credit: GETTY IMAGES He said: “All the people in this room know it’s a terrible history, so my feelings and thoughts are for the victims. “Hopefully, everyone can learn from that, society can learn from that because I’m a father. So, when you see what has happened, it can happen with my sons and daughters. “The authorities and judges have to decide in a better way to try to make a good example for the future so it doesn't happen again.” Crewe declined to expand on the statement they issued on Thursday in which they expressed their “deepest sympathies” to Bennell’s victims as well as denying being aware of any sexual abuse by him or receiving any such complaint about him. Invited to apologise on Friday, chairman John Bowl replied: “No comment.” City’s statement also revealed their review had identified a second alleged child abuser with potential connections to the club, John Broome. An early TV interview with Barry Bennell Credit: BBC Broome, who the club said was deceased, was manager of a junior side thought to be a feeder team for City in the 1960s, Whitehill FC. The Manchester Evening News published an interview with a former player at the now-defunct club who said he had been abused by Broome. “Twice, I was in his house and he grabbed my groin,” he recalled. “He used to try ways of getting you into his house, like saying, ‘The new kit has arrived, come and have a look’. “Even on match days, you would see him trying to grope other boys that were on the touchline, pretending he was larking around. “I would get invites to his house to try on the new kit he had for the next cup final that we were in. I always refused.”
Man City and Crewe under mounting pressure to make public apologies to Barry Bennell victims
Manchester City and Crewe Alexandra are under mounting pressure to make public apologies to Barry Bennell’s victims amid further accusations they failed to stop him sexually abusing countless boys. One of the lawyers representing survivors of serial paedophile Bennell, who was convicted on Thursday of a total of 43 child sexual abuse offences, condemned the two clubs’ responses to this week’s guilty verdicts. City and Crewe, the professional teams with whom Bennell has been most closely linked, both issued statements following the conclusion of a trial that has brought further shame on the game. But, despite the emergence of fresh allegations they ignored warnings about a man described as football’s Jimmy Savile, neither club admitted any responsibility for his crimes as they braced themselves for a wave of compensation claims from his victims. Dino Nocivelli, one of the country's leading lawyers representing child abuse survivors - including a substantial number of ex-footballers - told The Daily Telegraph that City and Crewe’s responses were “just not good enough”. Andy Woodward, the man who blew the whistle on football's paedophile scandal, speaks to the press Credit: PA “I would have hoped for City and Crewe to have admitted some element of blame for their close connections to Bennell,” he said. “It’s not about them; it’s about survivors. They need to admit their failings.” Andy Woodward, the man who blew the whistle on football’s paedophile scandal 15 months ago, has also demanded apologies from the clubs involved. City declined to expand on the statement they issued on Thursday in which they expressed their “heartfelt sympathy” to Bennell’s victims, who they said were “entitled to expect full protection from the kind of harm they endured”. The club was expected to say more following the conclusion of a QC-led review it commissioned into allegations of child sexual abuse there. Manager Pep Guardiola did discuss the outcome of Bennell’s trial at a press conference on Friday to preview the club’s FA Cup tie at Wigan Athletic. Pep Guardiola discusses the outcome of Barry Bennell’s trial at a press conference Credit: GETTY IMAGES He said: “All the people in this room know it’s a terrible history, so my feelings and thoughts are for the victims. “Hopefully, everyone can learn from that, society can learn from that because I’m a father. So, when you see what has happened, it can happen with my sons and daughters. “The authorities and judges have to decide in a better way to try to make a good example for the future so it doesn't happen again.” Crewe declined to expand on the statement they issued on Thursday in which they expressed their “deepest sympathies” to Bennell’s victims as well as denying being aware of any sexual abuse by him or receiving any such complaint about him. Invited to apologise on Friday, chairman John Bowl replied: “No comment.” City’s statement also revealed their review had identified a second alleged child abuser with potential connections to the club, John Broome. An early TV interview with Barry Bennell Credit: BBC Broome, who the club said was deceased, was manager of a junior side thought to be a feeder team for City in the 1960s, Whitehill FC. The Manchester Evening News published an interview with a former player at the now-defunct club who said he had been abused by Broome. “Twice, I was in his house and he grabbed my groin,” he recalled. “He used to try ways of getting you into his house, like saying, ‘The new kit has arrived, come and have a look’. “Even on match days, you would see him trying to grope other boys that were on the touchline, pretending he was larking around. “I would get invites to his house to try on the new kit he had for the next cup final that we were in. I always refused.”
Manchester City and Crewe Alexandra are under mounting pressure to make public apologies to Barry Bennell’s victims amid further accusations they failed to stop him sexually abusing countless boys. One of the lawyers representing survivors of serial paedophile Bennell, who was convicted on Thursday of a total of 43 child sexual abuse offences, condemned the two clubs’ responses to this week’s guilty verdicts. City and Crewe, the professional teams with whom Bennell has been most closely linked, both issued statements following the conclusion of a trial that has brought further shame on the game. But, despite the emergence of fresh allegations they ignored warnings about a man described as football’s Jimmy Savile, neither club admitted any responsibility for his crimes as they braced themselves for a wave of compensation claims from his victims. Dino Nocivelli, one of the country's leading lawyers representing child abuse survivors - including a substantial number of ex-footballers - told The Daily Telegraph that City and Crewe’s responses were “just not good enough”. Andy Woodward, the man who blew the whistle on football's paedophile scandal, speaks to the press Credit: PA “I would have hoped for City and Crewe to have admitted some element of blame for their close connections to Bennell,” he said. “It’s not about them; it’s about survivors. They need to admit their failings.” Andy Woodward, the man who blew the whistle on football’s paedophile scandal 15 months ago, has also demanded apologies from the clubs involved. City declined to expand on the statement they issued on Thursday in which they expressed their “heartfelt sympathy” to Bennell’s victims, who they said were “entitled to expect full protection from the kind of harm they endured”. The club was expected to say more following the conclusion of a QC-led review it commissioned into allegations of child sexual abuse there. Manager Pep Guardiola did discuss the outcome of Bennell’s trial at a press conference on Friday to preview the club’s FA Cup tie at Wigan Athletic. Pep Guardiola discusses the outcome of Barry Bennell’s trial at a press conference Credit: GETTY IMAGES He said: “All the people in this room know it’s a terrible history, so my feelings and thoughts are for the victims. “Hopefully, everyone can learn from that, society can learn from that because I’m a father. So, when you see what has happened, it can happen with my sons and daughters. “The authorities and judges have to decide in a better way to try to make a good example for the future so it doesn't happen again.” Crewe declined to expand on the statement they issued on Thursday in which they expressed their “deepest sympathies” to Bennell’s victims as well as denying being aware of any sexual abuse by him or receiving any such complaint about him. Invited to apologise on Friday, chairman John Bowl replied: “No comment.” City’s statement also revealed their review had identified a second alleged child abuser with potential connections to the club, John Broome. An early TV interview with Barry Bennell Credit: BBC Broome, who the club said was deceased, was manager of a junior side thought to be a feeder team for City in the 1960s, Whitehill FC. The Manchester Evening News published an interview with a former player at the now-defunct club who said he had been abused by Broome. “Twice, I was in his house and he grabbed my groin,” he recalled. “He used to try ways of getting you into his house, like saying, ‘The new kit has arrived, come and have a look’. “Even on match days, you would see him trying to grope other boys that were on the touchline, pretending he was larking around. “I would get invites to his house to try on the new kit he had for the next cup final that we were in. I always refused.”
Man City and Crewe under mounting pressure to make public apologies to Barry Bennell victims
Manchester City and Crewe Alexandra are under mounting pressure to make public apologies to Barry Bennell’s victims amid further accusations they failed to stop him sexually abusing countless boys. One of the lawyers representing survivors of serial paedophile Bennell, who was convicted on Thursday of a total of 43 child sexual abuse offences, condemned the two clubs’ responses to this week’s guilty verdicts. City and Crewe, the professional teams with whom Bennell has been most closely linked, both issued statements following the conclusion of a trial that has brought further shame on the game. But, despite the emergence of fresh allegations they ignored warnings about a man described as football’s Jimmy Savile, neither club admitted any responsibility for his crimes as they braced themselves for a wave of compensation claims from his victims. Dino Nocivelli, one of the country's leading lawyers representing child abuse survivors - including a substantial number of ex-footballers - told The Daily Telegraph that City and Crewe’s responses were “just not good enough”. Andy Woodward, the man who blew the whistle on football's paedophile scandal, speaks to the press Credit: PA “I would have hoped for City and Crewe to have admitted some element of blame for their close connections to Bennell,” he said. “It’s not about them; it’s about survivors. They need to admit their failings.” Andy Woodward, the man who blew the whistle on football’s paedophile scandal 15 months ago, has also demanded apologies from the clubs involved. City declined to expand on the statement they issued on Thursday in which they expressed their “heartfelt sympathy” to Bennell’s victims, who they said were “entitled to expect full protection from the kind of harm they endured”. The club was expected to say more following the conclusion of a QC-led review it commissioned into allegations of child sexual abuse there. Manager Pep Guardiola did discuss the outcome of Bennell’s trial at a press conference on Friday to preview the club’s FA Cup tie at Wigan Athletic. Pep Guardiola discusses the outcome of Barry Bennell’s trial at a press conference Credit: GETTY IMAGES He said: “All the people in this room know it’s a terrible history, so my feelings and thoughts are for the victims. “Hopefully, everyone can learn from that, society can learn from that because I’m a father. So, when you see what has happened, it can happen with my sons and daughters. “The authorities and judges have to decide in a better way to try to make a good example for the future so it doesn't happen again.” Crewe declined to expand on the statement they issued on Thursday in which they expressed their “deepest sympathies” to Bennell’s victims as well as denying being aware of any sexual abuse by him or receiving any such complaint about him. Invited to apologise on Friday, chairman John Bowl replied: “No comment.” City’s statement also revealed their review had identified a second alleged child abuser with potential connections to the club, John Broome. An early TV interview with Barry Bennell Credit: BBC Broome, who the club said was deceased, was manager of a junior side thought to be a feeder team for City in the 1960s, Whitehill FC. The Manchester Evening News published an interview with a former player at the now-defunct club who said he had been abused by Broome. “Twice, I was in his house and he grabbed my groin,” he recalled. “He used to try ways of getting you into his house, like saying, ‘The new kit has arrived, come and have a look’. “Even on match days, you would see him trying to grope other boys that were on the touchline, pretending he was larking around. “I would get invites to his house to try on the new kit he had for the next cup final that we were in. I always refused.”
Manchester City and Crewe Alexandra are under mounting pressure to make public apologies to Barry Bennell’s victims amid further accusations they failed to stop him sexually abusing countless boys. One of the lawyers representing survivors of serial paedophile Bennell, who was convicted on Thursday of a total of 43 child sexual abuse offences, condemned the two clubs’ responses to this week’s guilty verdicts. City and Crewe, the professional teams with whom Bennell has been most closely linked, both issued statements following the conclusion of a trial that has brought further shame on the game. But, despite the emergence of fresh allegations they ignored warnings about a man described as football’s Jimmy Savile, neither club admitted any responsibility for his crimes as they braced themselves for a wave of compensation claims from his victims. Dino Nocivelli, one of the country's leading lawyers representing child abuse survivors - including a substantial number of ex-footballers - told The Daily Telegraph that City and Crewe’s responses were “just not good enough”. Andy Woodward, the man who blew the whistle on football's paedophile scandal, speaks to the press Credit: PA “I would have hoped for City and Crewe to have admitted some element of blame for their close connections to Bennell,” he said. “It’s not about them; it’s about survivors. They need to admit their failings.” Andy Woodward, the man who blew the whistle on football’s paedophile scandal 15 months ago, has also demanded apologies from the clubs involved. City declined to expand on the statement they issued on Thursday in which they expressed their “heartfelt sympathy” to Bennell’s victims, who they said were “entitled to expect full protection from the kind of harm they endured”. The club was expected to say more following the conclusion of a QC-led review it commissioned into allegations of child sexual abuse there. Manager Pep Guardiola did discuss the outcome of Bennell’s trial at a press conference on Friday to preview the club’s FA Cup tie at Wigan Athletic. Pep Guardiola discusses the outcome of Barry Bennell’s trial at a press conference Credit: GETTY IMAGES He said: “All the people in this room know it’s a terrible history, so my feelings and thoughts are for the victims. “Hopefully, everyone can learn from that, society can learn from that because I’m a father. So, when you see what has happened, it can happen with my sons and daughters. “The authorities and judges have to decide in a better way to try to make a good example for the future so it doesn't happen again.” Crewe declined to expand on the statement they issued on Thursday in which they expressed their “deepest sympathies” to Bennell’s victims as well as denying being aware of any sexual abuse by him or receiving any such complaint about him. Invited to apologise on Friday, chairman John Bowl replied: “No comment.” City’s statement also revealed their review had identified a second alleged child abuser with potential connections to the club, John Broome. An early TV interview with Barry Bennell Credit: BBC Broome, who the club said was deceased, was manager of a junior side thought to be a feeder team for City in the 1960s, Whitehill FC. The Manchester Evening News published an interview with a former player at the now-defunct club who said he had been abused by Broome. “Twice, I was in his house and he grabbed my groin,” he recalled. “He used to try ways of getting you into his house, like saying, ‘The new kit has arrived, come and have a look’. “Even on match days, you would see him trying to grope other boys that were on the touchline, pretending he was larking around. “I would get invites to his house to try on the new kit he had for the next cup final that we were in. I always refused.”
Man City and Crewe under mounting pressure to make public apologies to Barry Bennell victims
Manchester City and Crewe Alexandra are under mounting pressure to make public apologies to Barry Bennell’s victims amid further accusations they failed to stop him sexually abusing countless boys. One of the lawyers representing survivors of serial paedophile Bennell, who was convicted on Thursday of a total of 43 child sexual abuse offences, condemned the two clubs’ responses to this week’s guilty verdicts. City and Crewe, the professional teams with whom Bennell has been most closely linked, both issued statements following the conclusion of a trial that has brought further shame on the game. But, despite the emergence of fresh allegations they ignored warnings about a man described as football’s Jimmy Savile, neither club admitted any responsibility for his crimes as they braced themselves for a wave of compensation claims from his victims. Dino Nocivelli, one of the country's leading lawyers representing child abuse survivors - including a substantial number of ex-footballers - told The Daily Telegraph that City and Crewe’s responses were “just not good enough”. Andy Woodward, the man who blew the whistle on football's paedophile scandal, speaks to the press Credit: PA “I would have hoped for City and Crewe to have admitted some element of blame for their close connections to Bennell,” he said. “It’s not about them; it’s about survivors. They need to admit their failings.” Andy Woodward, the man who blew the whistle on football’s paedophile scandal 15 months ago, has also demanded apologies from the clubs involved. City declined to expand on the statement they issued on Thursday in which they expressed their “heartfelt sympathy” to Bennell’s victims, who they said were “entitled to expect full protection from the kind of harm they endured”. The club was expected to say more following the conclusion of a QC-led review it commissioned into allegations of child sexual abuse there. Manager Pep Guardiola did discuss the outcome of Bennell’s trial at a press conference on Friday to preview the club’s FA Cup tie at Wigan Athletic. Pep Guardiola discusses the outcome of Barry Bennell’s trial at a press conference Credit: GETTY IMAGES He said: “All the people in this room know it’s a terrible history, so my feelings and thoughts are for the victims. “Hopefully, everyone can learn from that, society can learn from that because I’m a father. So, when you see what has happened, it can happen with my sons and daughters. “The authorities and judges have to decide in a better way to try to make a good example for the future so it doesn't happen again.” Crewe declined to expand on the statement they issued on Thursday in which they expressed their “deepest sympathies” to Bennell’s victims as well as denying being aware of any sexual abuse by him or receiving any such complaint about him. Invited to apologise on Friday, chairman John Bowl replied: “No comment.” City’s statement also revealed their review had identified a second alleged child abuser with potential connections to the club, John Broome. An early TV interview with Barry Bennell Credit: BBC Broome, who the club said was deceased, was manager of a junior side thought to be a feeder team for City in the 1960s, Whitehill FC. The Manchester Evening News published an interview with a former player at the now-defunct club who said he had been abused by Broome. “Twice, I was in his house and he grabbed my groin,” he recalled. “He used to try ways of getting you into his house, like saying, ‘The new kit has arrived, come and have a look’. “Even on match days, you would see him trying to grope other boys that were on the touchline, pretending he was larking around. “I would get invites to his house to try on the new kit he had for the next cup final that we were in. I always refused.”
Manchester City and Crewe Alexandra are under mounting pressure to make public apologies to Barry Bennell’s victims amid further accusations they failed to stop him sexually abusing countless boys. One of the lawyers representing survivors of serial paedophile Bennell, who was convicted on Thursday of a total of 43 child sexual abuse offences, condemned the two clubs’ responses to this week’s guilty verdicts. City and Crewe, the professional teams with whom Bennell has been most closely linked, both issued statements following the conclusion of a trial that has brought further shame on the game. But, despite the emergence of fresh allegations they ignored warnings about a man described as football’s Jimmy Savile, neither club admitted any responsibility for his crimes as they braced themselves for a wave of compensation claims from his victims. Dino Nocivelli, one of the country's leading lawyers representing child abuse survivors - including a substantial number of ex-footballers - told The Daily Telegraph that City and Crewe’s responses were “just not good enough”. Andy Woodward, the man who blew the whistle on football's paedophile scandal, speaks to the press Credit: PA “I would have hoped for City and Crewe to have admitted some element of blame for their close connections to Bennell,” he said. “It’s not about them; it’s about survivors. They need to admit their failings.” Andy Woodward, the man who blew the whistle on football’s paedophile scandal 15 months ago, has also demanded apologies from the clubs involved. City declined to expand on the statement they issued on Thursday in which they expressed their “heartfelt sympathy” to Bennell’s victims, who they said were “entitled to expect full protection from the kind of harm they endured”. The club was expected to say more following the conclusion of a QC-led review it commissioned into allegations of child sexual abuse there. Manager Pep Guardiola did discuss the outcome of Bennell’s trial at a press conference on Friday to preview the club’s FA Cup tie at Wigan Athletic. Pep Guardiola discusses the outcome of Barry Bennell’s trial at a press conference Credit: GETTY IMAGES He said: “All the people in this room know it’s a terrible history, so my feelings and thoughts are for the victims. “Hopefully, everyone can learn from that, society can learn from that because I’m a father. So, when you see what has happened, it can happen with my sons and daughters. “The authorities and judges have to decide in a better way to try to make a good example for the future so it doesn't happen again.” Crewe declined to expand on the statement they issued on Thursday in which they expressed their “deepest sympathies” to Bennell’s victims as well as denying being aware of any sexual abuse by him or receiving any such complaint about him. Invited to apologise on Friday, chairman John Bowl replied: “No comment.” City’s statement also revealed their review had identified a second alleged child abuser with potential connections to the club, John Broome. An early TV interview with Barry Bennell Credit: BBC Broome, who the club said was deceased, was manager of a junior side thought to be a feeder team for City in the 1960s, Whitehill FC. The Manchester Evening News published an interview with a former player at the now-defunct club who said he had been abused by Broome. “Twice, I was in his house and he grabbed my groin,” he recalled. “He used to try ways of getting you into his house, like saying, ‘The new kit has arrived, come and have a look’. “Even on match days, you would see him trying to grope other boys that were on the touchline, pretending he was larking around. “I would get invites to his house to try on the new kit he had for the next cup final that we were in. I always refused.”
Man City and Crewe under mounting pressure to make public apologies to Barry Bennell victims
Manchester City and Crewe Alexandra are under mounting pressure to make public apologies to Barry Bennell’s victims amid further accusations they failed to stop him sexually abusing countless boys. One of the lawyers representing survivors of serial paedophile Bennell, who was convicted on Thursday of a total of 43 child sexual abuse offences, condemned the two clubs’ responses to this week’s guilty verdicts. City and Crewe, the professional teams with whom Bennell has been most closely linked, both issued statements following the conclusion of a trial that has brought further shame on the game. But, despite the emergence of fresh allegations they ignored warnings about a man described as football’s Jimmy Savile, neither club admitted any responsibility for his crimes as they braced themselves for a wave of compensation claims from his victims. Dino Nocivelli, one of the country's leading lawyers representing child abuse survivors - including a substantial number of ex-footballers - told The Daily Telegraph that City and Crewe’s responses were “just not good enough”. Andy Woodward, the man who blew the whistle on football's paedophile scandal, speaks to the press Credit: PA “I would have hoped for City and Crewe to have admitted some element of blame for their close connections to Bennell,” he said. “It’s not about them; it’s about survivors. They need to admit their failings.” Andy Woodward, the man who blew the whistle on football’s paedophile scandal 15 months ago, has also demanded apologies from the clubs involved. City declined to expand on the statement they issued on Thursday in which they expressed their “heartfelt sympathy” to Bennell’s victims, who they said were “entitled to expect full protection from the kind of harm they endured”. The club was expected to say more following the conclusion of a QC-led review it commissioned into allegations of child sexual abuse there. Manager Pep Guardiola did discuss the outcome of Bennell’s trial at a press conference on Friday to preview the club’s FA Cup tie at Wigan Athletic. Pep Guardiola discusses the outcome of Barry Bennell’s trial at a press conference Credit: GETTY IMAGES He said: “All the people in this room know it’s a terrible history, so my feelings and thoughts are for the victims. “Hopefully, everyone can learn from that, society can learn from that because I’m a father. So, when you see what has happened, it can happen with my sons and daughters. “The authorities and judges have to decide in a better way to try to make a good example for the future so it doesn't happen again.” Crewe declined to expand on the statement they issued on Thursday in which they expressed their “deepest sympathies” to Bennell’s victims as well as denying being aware of any sexual abuse by him or receiving any such complaint about him. Invited to apologise on Friday, chairman John Bowl replied: “No comment.” City’s statement also revealed their review had identified a second alleged child abuser with potential connections to the club, John Broome. An early TV interview with Barry Bennell Credit: BBC Broome, who the club said was deceased, was manager of a junior side thought to be a feeder team for City in the 1960s, Whitehill FC. The Manchester Evening News published an interview with a former player at the now-defunct club who said he had been abused by Broome. “Twice, I was in his house and he grabbed my groin,” he recalled. “He used to try ways of getting you into his house, like saying, ‘The new kit has arrived, come and have a look’. “Even on match days, you would see him trying to grope other boys that were on the touchline, pretending he was larking around. “I would get invites to his house to try on the new kit he had for the next cup final that we were in. I always refused.”
Manchester City and Crewe Alexandra are facing the prospect of large-scale legal action and compensation bills running into millions of pounds from victims of the serial paedophile Barry Bennell. Bennell, who worked as a youth coach and scout for City and Crewe among others, was found guilty at Liverpool Crown Court on Thursday of 43 counts of child sexual abuse against 11 victims as the horrifying scale of his crimes begins to emerge. It is understood the number of victims assaulted by Bennell – who is still under police investigation – could easily exceed 100 after 86 more people came forward to report abuse by him. Bennell, 64, described at the trial as a “child molester on an industrial scale”, had already been convicted of abusing 15 boys in the UK and one in the United States. Bennell will be sentenced on Monday. City and Crewe are two of the clubs most seriously implicated and could be the subject of a civil group action from victims. The court heard three former junior footballers are already suing City after civil cases were lodged in March 2016 while one is planning to sue Crewe and the FA for damages. Three other complainants in the current trial have sought legal ­advice on a potential compensation claim and it is believed others could follow. Dino Nocivelli, one of the country’s leading lawyers for child abuse victims who is representing a substantial number of victims in this case, said: “They have got quite a large-scale problem on their hands.” Three of Bennell's victims talk to the media outside court on Thursday Credit: PA City have been accused of putting hundreds of boys in danger after it emerged one of their coaches, Steve Fleet, had warned in the Seventies that it was “general knowledge” Bennell was a risk to children, long before he joined Crewe in 1985. “People would say he [Bennell] was ‘dodgy’ and if his name was brought up everyone would shake their heads,” said Fleet. One of Bennell’s victims, Gary Cliffe, who was at City when he was abused between the ages of 11 and 15, told how Bennell even once abused them on the club’s Maine Road pitch. “If those in positions of responsibility had challenged Bennell, hundreds of wrecked lives could have been saved,” Cliffe, 47, told The Guardian. One of Bennell’s victims told ­Liverpool Crown Court he was targeted “straight away” in Bennell’s Mercedes when he started to give him lifts to and from City’s then training ground at Platt Lane. Bennell was said by another complainant to have been treated like “God” at Maine Road. Jurors also heard from a third complainant that he thought City officials Ken Barnes and Mike Grimsley had known Bennell was targeting boys. One City director at the time of Bennell’s association with the club, Simon Cussons, was interviewed by the BBC last year, although he died before City had been able to conduct their own interview with him. It is understood City were scheduled to interview Cussons. In Channel 4’s Dispatches documentary in 1997, Chris Muir, a City director at the time, was asked about one parent writing to City to complain Bennell had boys in his room late at night on trips away and explained “football allowed him to stay because he was producing the goods”. An artist's sketch of Bennell in court Credit: PA Yet it has emerged police had interviewed Barnes and Muir, in addition to Fleet and another member of City’s youth team staff, Terry Farrell, when Bennell was arrested in Florida in 1994. A Dispatches documentary Football’s Wall of Silence, which aired on Channel 4 last night, reported detectives investigating that 1994 case said Barnes was “very cagey”. City began their QC-led inquiry 15 months ago and said on Thursday they had identified another alleged paedophile, John Broome, now deceased, with whom they have “potential historic connections”. City added Broome was “not believed to be linked to Bennell”. City are thought to have taken more than 100 statements from victims, family members, coaches, former employees and other figures and dedicated around 5,000 hours to a review that has so far cost in excess of £1 million. Crewe expressed its “deepest sympathies to the victims of Barry Bennell” but insisted it was “not aware of any sexual abuse by Mr Bennell, nor did it receive any complaint about sexual abuse by him. CLUB STATEMENT: Barry Bennell #CreweAlexhttps://t.co/nKXRpwko49pic.twitter.com/gYhmBYB6JC— Crewe Alexandra F.C. (@crewealexfc) February 15, 2018 “The club wishes to make it absolutely clear that had it had any suspicion or belief that Mr Bennell was committing acts of abuse... the club would have informed the police.” Lord Carlile, the eminent barrister who prosecuted Bennell in 1998, claimed the scandal was “brushed under the carpet” by Crewe, whom he accused of “institutional failure” over their former youth coach. It has also emerged that former Crewe manager Dario Gradi, the club’s director of football who has been suspended by the FA pending an investigation into sexual abuse in football, wrote a letter to a court in Jacksonville, Florida, in 1994 in support of Bennell, who was facing six charges of child abuse to which he later pleaded guilty. Gradi is expected to face fresh scrutiny after praising Bennell for his “great ability to communicate with kids.”
Man City and Crewe could face paying millions in compensation to Barry Bennell's victims
Manchester City and Crewe Alexandra are facing the prospect of large-scale legal action and compensation bills running into millions of pounds from victims of the serial paedophile Barry Bennell. Bennell, who worked as a youth coach and scout for City and Crewe among others, was found guilty at Liverpool Crown Court on Thursday of 43 counts of child sexual abuse against 11 victims as the horrifying scale of his crimes begins to emerge. It is understood the number of victims assaulted by Bennell – who is still under police investigation – could easily exceed 100 after 86 more people came forward to report abuse by him. Bennell, 64, described at the trial as a “child molester on an industrial scale”, had already been convicted of abusing 15 boys in the UK and one in the United States. Bennell will be sentenced on Monday. City and Crewe are two of the clubs most seriously implicated and could be the subject of a civil group action from victims. The court heard three former junior footballers are already suing City after civil cases were lodged in March 2016 while one is planning to sue Crewe and the FA for damages. Three other complainants in the current trial have sought legal ­advice on a potential compensation claim and it is believed others could follow. Dino Nocivelli, one of the country’s leading lawyers for child abuse victims who is representing a substantial number of victims in this case, said: “They have got quite a large-scale problem on their hands.” Three of Bennell's victims talk to the media outside court on Thursday Credit: PA City have been accused of putting hundreds of boys in danger after it emerged one of their coaches, Steve Fleet, had warned in the Seventies that it was “general knowledge” Bennell was a risk to children, long before he joined Crewe in 1985. “People would say he [Bennell] was ‘dodgy’ and if his name was brought up everyone would shake their heads,” said Fleet. One of Bennell’s victims, Gary Cliffe, who was at City when he was abused between the ages of 11 and 15, told how Bennell even once abused them on the club’s Maine Road pitch. “If those in positions of responsibility had challenged Bennell, hundreds of wrecked lives could have been saved,” Cliffe, 47, told The Guardian. One of Bennell’s victims told ­Liverpool Crown Court he was targeted “straight away” in Bennell’s Mercedes when he started to give him lifts to and from City’s then training ground at Platt Lane. Bennell was said by another complainant to have been treated like “God” at Maine Road. Jurors also heard from a third complainant that he thought City officials Ken Barnes and Mike Grimsley had known Bennell was targeting boys. One City director at the time of Bennell’s association with the club, Simon Cussons, was interviewed by the BBC last year, although he died before City had been able to conduct their own interview with him. It is understood City were scheduled to interview Cussons. In Channel 4’s Dispatches documentary in 1997, Chris Muir, a City director at the time, was asked about one parent writing to City to complain Bennell had boys in his room late at night on trips away and explained “football allowed him to stay because he was producing the goods”. An artist's sketch of Bennell in court Credit: PA Yet it has emerged police had interviewed Barnes and Muir, in addition to Fleet and another member of City’s youth team staff, Terry Farrell, when Bennell was arrested in Florida in 1994. A Dispatches documentary Football’s Wall of Silence, which aired on Channel 4 last night, reported detectives investigating that 1994 case said Barnes was “very cagey”. City began their QC-led inquiry 15 months ago and said on Thursday they had identified another alleged paedophile, John Broome, now deceased, with whom they have “potential historic connections”. City added Broome was “not believed to be linked to Bennell”. City are thought to have taken more than 100 statements from victims, family members, coaches, former employees and other figures and dedicated around 5,000 hours to a review that has so far cost in excess of £1 million. Crewe expressed its “deepest sympathies to the victims of Barry Bennell” but insisted it was “not aware of any sexual abuse by Mr Bennell, nor did it receive any complaint about sexual abuse by him. CLUB STATEMENT: Barry Bennell #CreweAlexhttps://t.co/nKXRpwko49pic.twitter.com/gYhmBYB6JC— Crewe Alexandra F.C. (@crewealexfc) February 15, 2018 “The club wishes to make it absolutely clear that had it had any suspicion or belief that Mr Bennell was committing acts of abuse... the club would have informed the police.” Lord Carlile, the eminent barrister who prosecuted Bennell in 1998, claimed the scandal was “brushed under the carpet” by Crewe, whom he accused of “institutional failure” over their former youth coach. It has also emerged that former Crewe manager Dario Gradi, the club’s director of football who has been suspended by the FA pending an investigation into sexual abuse in football, wrote a letter to a court in Jacksonville, Florida, in 1994 in support of Bennell, who was facing six charges of child abuse to which he later pleaded guilty. Gradi is expected to face fresh scrutiny after praising Bennell for his “great ability to communicate with kids.”
Manchester City and Crewe Alexandra are facing the prospect of large-scale legal action and compensation bills running into millions of pounds from victims of the serial paedophile Barry Bennell. Bennell, who worked as a youth coach and scout for City and Crewe among others, was found guilty at Liverpool Crown Court on Thursday of 43 counts of child sexual abuse against 11 victims as the horrifying scale of his crimes begins to emerge. It is understood the number of victims assaulted by Bennell – who is still under police investigation – could easily exceed 100 after 86 more people came forward to report abuse by him. Bennell, 64, described at the trial as a “child molester on an industrial scale”, had already been convicted of abusing 15 boys in the UK and one in the United States. Bennell will be sentenced on Monday. City and Crewe are two of the clubs most seriously implicated and could be the subject of a civil group action from victims. The court heard three former junior footballers are already suing City after civil cases were lodged in March 2016 while one is planning to sue Crewe and the FA for damages. Three other complainants in the current trial have sought legal ­advice on a potential compensation claim and it is believed others could follow. Dino Nocivelli, one of the country’s leading lawyers for child abuse victims who is representing a substantial number of victims in this case, said: “They have got quite a large-scale problem on their hands.” Three of Bennell's victims talk to the media outside court on Thursday Credit: PA City have been accused of putting hundreds of boys in danger after it emerged one of their coaches, Steve Fleet, had warned in the Seventies that it was “general knowledge” Bennell was a risk to children, long before he joined Crewe in 1985. “People would say he [Bennell] was ‘dodgy’ and if his name was brought up everyone would shake their heads,” said Fleet. One of Bennell’s victims, Gary Cliffe, who was at City when he was abused between the ages of 11 and 15, told how Bennell even once abused them on the club’s Maine Road pitch. “If those in positions of responsibility had challenged Bennell, hundreds of wrecked lives could have been saved,” Cliffe, 47, told The Guardian. One of Bennell’s victims told ­Liverpool Crown Court he was targeted “straight away” in Bennell’s Mercedes when he started to give him lifts to and from City’s then training ground at Platt Lane. Bennell was said by another complainant to have been treated like “God” at Maine Road. Jurors also heard from a third complainant that he thought City officials Ken Barnes and Mike Grimsley had known Bennell was targeting boys. One City director at the time of Bennell’s association with the club, Simon Cussons, was interviewed by the BBC last year, although he died before City had been able to conduct their own interview with him. It is understood City were scheduled to interview Cussons. In Channel 4’s Dispatches documentary in 1997, Chris Muir, a City director at the time, was asked about one parent writing to City to complain Bennell had boys in his room late at night on trips away and explained “football allowed him to stay because he was producing the goods”. An artist's sketch of Bennell in court Credit: PA Yet it has emerged police had interviewed Barnes and Muir, in addition to Fleet and another member of City’s youth team staff, Terry Farrell, when Bennell was arrested in Florida in 1994. A Dispatches documentary Football’s Wall of Silence, which aired on Channel 4 last night, reported detectives investigating that 1994 case said Barnes was “very cagey”. City began their QC-led inquiry 15 months ago and said on Thursday they had identified another alleged paedophile, John Broome, now deceased, with whom they have “potential historic connections”. City added Broome was “not believed to be linked to Bennell”. City are thought to have taken more than 100 statements from victims, family members, coaches, former employees and other figures and dedicated around 5,000 hours to a review that has so far cost in excess of £1 million. Crewe expressed its “deepest sympathies to the victims of Barry Bennell” but insisted it was “not aware of any sexual abuse by Mr Bennell, nor did it receive any complaint about sexual abuse by him. CLUB STATEMENT: Barry Bennell #CreweAlexhttps://t.co/nKXRpwko49pic.twitter.com/gYhmBYB6JC— Crewe Alexandra F.C. (@crewealexfc) February 15, 2018 “The club wishes to make it absolutely clear that had it had any suspicion or belief that Mr Bennell was committing acts of abuse... the club would have informed the police.” Lord Carlile, the eminent barrister who prosecuted Bennell in 1998, claimed the scandal was “brushed under the carpet” by Crewe, whom he accused of “institutional failure” over their former youth coach. It has also emerged that former Crewe manager Dario Gradi, the club’s director of football who has been suspended by the FA pending an investigation into sexual abuse in football, wrote a letter to a court in Jacksonville, Florida, in 1994 in support of Bennell, who was facing six charges of child abuse to which he later pleaded guilty. Gradi is expected to face fresh scrutiny after praising Bennell for his “great ability to communicate with kids.”
Man City and Crewe could face paying millions in compensation to Barry Bennell's victims
Manchester City and Crewe Alexandra are facing the prospect of large-scale legal action and compensation bills running into millions of pounds from victims of the serial paedophile Barry Bennell. Bennell, who worked as a youth coach and scout for City and Crewe among others, was found guilty at Liverpool Crown Court on Thursday of 43 counts of child sexual abuse against 11 victims as the horrifying scale of his crimes begins to emerge. It is understood the number of victims assaulted by Bennell – who is still under police investigation – could easily exceed 100 after 86 more people came forward to report abuse by him. Bennell, 64, described at the trial as a “child molester on an industrial scale”, had already been convicted of abusing 15 boys in the UK and one in the United States. Bennell will be sentenced on Monday. City and Crewe are two of the clubs most seriously implicated and could be the subject of a civil group action from victims. The court heard three former junior footballers are already suing City after civil cases were lodged in March 2016 while one is planning to sue Crewe and the FA for damages. Three other complainants in the current trial have sought legal ­advice on a potential compensation claim and it is believed others could follow. Dino Nocivelli, one of the country’s leading lawyers for child abuse victims who is representing a substantial number of victims in this case, said: “They have got quite a large-scale problem on their hands.” Three of Bennell's victims talk to the media outside court on Thursday Credit: PA City have been accused of putting hundreds of boys in danger after it emerged one of their coaches, Steve Fleet, had warned in the Seventies that it was “general knowledge” Bennell was a risk to children, long before he joined Crewe in 1985. “People would say he [Bennell] was ‘dodgy’ and if his name was brought up everyone would shake their heads,” said Fleet. One of Bennell’s victims, Gary Cliffe, who was at City when he was abused between the ages of 11 and 15, told how Bennell even once abused them on the club’s Maine Road pitch. “If those in positions of responsibility had challenged Bennell, hundreds of wrecked lives could have been saved,” Cliffe, 47, told The Guardian. One of Bennell’s victims told ­Liverpool Crown Court he was targeted “straight away” in Bennell’s Mercedes when he started to give him lifts to and from City’s then training ground at Platt Lane. Bennell was said by another complainant to have been treated like “God” at Maine Road. Jurors also heard from a third complainant that he thought City officials Ken Barnes and Mike Grimsley had known Bennell was targeting boys. One City director at the time of Bennell’s association with the club, Simon Cussons, was interviewed by the BBC last year, although he died before City had been able to conduct their own interview with him. It is understood City were scheduled to interview Cussons. In Channel 4’s Dispatches documentary in 1997, Chris Muir, a City director at the time, was asked about one parent writing to City to complain Bennell had boys in his room late at night on trips away and explained “football allowed him to stay because he was producing the goods”. An artist's sketch of Bennell in court Credit: PA Yet it has emerged police had interviewed Barnes and Muir, in addition to Fleet and another member of City’s youth team staff, Terry Farrell, when Bennell was arrested in Florida in 1994. A Dispatches documentary Football’s Wall of Silence, which aired on Channel 4 last night, reported detectives investigating that 1994 case said Barnes was “very cagey”. City began their QC-led inquiry 15 months ago and said on Thursday they had identified another alleged paedophile, John Broome, now deceased, with whom they have “potential historic connections”. City added Broome was “not believed to be linked to Bennell”. City are thought to have taken more than 100 statements from victims, family members, coaches, former employees and other figures and dedicated around 5,000 hours to a review that has so far cost in excess of £1 million. Crewe expressed its “deepest sympathies to the victims of Barry Bennell” but insisted it was “not aware of any sexual abuse by Mr Bennell, nor did it receive any complaint about sexual abuse by him. CLUB STATEMENT: Barry Bennell #CreweAlexhttps://t.co/nKXRpwko49pic.twitter.com/gYhmBYB6JC— Crewe Alexandra F.C. (@crewealexfc) February 15, 2018 “The club wishes to make it absolutely clear that had it had any suspicion or belief that Mr Bennell was committing acts of abuse... the club would have informed the police.” Lord Carlile, the eminent barrister who prosecuted Bennell in 1998, claimed the scandal was “brushed under the carpet” by Crewe, whom he accused of “institutional failure” over their former youth coach. It has also emerged that former Crewe manager Dario Gradi, the club’s director of football who has been suspended by the FA pending an investigation into sexual abuse in football, wrote a letter to a court in Jacksonville, Florida, in 1994 in support of Bennell, who was facing six charges of child abuse to which he later pleaded guilty. Gradi is expected to face fresh scrutiny after praising Bennell for his “great ability to communicate with kids.”
Manchester City and Crewe Alexandra are facing the prospect of large-scale legal action and compensation bills running into millions of pounds from victims of the serial paedophile Barry Bennell. Bennell, who worked as a youth coach and scout for City and Crewe among others, was found guilty at Liverpool Crown Court on Thursday of 43 counts of child sexual abuse against 11 victims as the horrifying scale of his crimes begins to emerge. It is understood the number of victims assaulted by Bennell – who is still under police investigation – could easily exceed 100 after 86 more people came forward to report abuse by him. Bennell, 64, described at the trial as a “child molester on an industrial scale”, had already been convicted of abusing 15 boys in the UK and one in the United States. Bennell will be sentenced on Monday. City and Crewe are two of the clubs most seriously implicated and could be the subject of a civil group action from victims. The court heard three former junior footballers are already suing City after civil cases were lodged in March 2016 while one is planning to sue Crewe and the FA for damages. Three other complainants in the current trial have sought legal ­advice on a potential compensation claim and it is believed others could follow. Dino Nocivelli, one of the country’s leading lawyers for child abuse victims who is representing a substantial number of victims in this case, said: “They have got quite a large-scale problem on their hands.” Three of Bennell's victims talk to the media outside court on Thursday Credit: PA City have been accused of putting hundreds of boys in danger after it emerged one of their coaches, Steve Fleet, had warned in the Seventies that it was “general knowledge” Bennell was a risk to children, long before he joined Crewe in 1985. “People would say he [Bennell] was ‘dodgy’ and if his name was brought up everyone would shake their heads,” said Fleet. One of Bennell’s victims, Gary Cliffe, who was at City when he was abused between the ages of 11 and 15, told how Bennell even once abused them on the club’s Maine Road pitch. “If those in positions of responsibility had challenged Bennell, hundreds of wrecked lives could have been saved,” Cliffe, 47, told The Guardian. One of Bennell’s victims told ­Liverpool Crown Court he was targeted “straight away” in Bennell’s Mercedes when he started to give him lifts to and from City’s then training ground at Platt Lane. Bennell was said by another complainant to have been treated like “God” at Maine Road. Jurors also heard from a third complainant that he thought City officials Ken Barnes and Mike Grimsley had known Bennell was targeting boys. One City director at the time of Bennell’s association with the club, Simon Cussons, was interviewed by the BBC last year, although he died before City had been able to conduct their own interview with him. It is understood City were scheduled to interview Cussons. In Channel 4’s Dispatches documentary in 1997, Chris Muir, a City director at the time, was asked about one parent writing to City to complain Bennell had boys in his room late at night on trips away and explained “football allowed him to stay because he was producing the goods”. An artist's sketch of Bennell in court Credit: PA Yet it has emerged police had interviewed Barnes and Muir, in addition to Fleet and another member of City’s youth team staff, Terry Farrell, when Bennell was arrested in Florida in 1994. A Dispatches documentary Football’s Wall of Silence, which aired on Channel 4 last night, reported detectives investigating that 1994 case said Barnes was “very cagey”. City began their QC-led inquiry 15 months ago and said on Thursday they had identified another alleged paedophile, John Broome, now deceased, with whom they have “potential historic connections”. City added Broome was “not believed to be linked to Bennell”. City are thought to have taken more than 100 statements from victims, family members, coaches, former employees and other figures and dedicated around 5,000 hours to a review that has so far cost in excess of £1 million. Crewe expressed its “deepest sympathies to the victims of Barry Bennell” but insisted it was “not aware of any sexual abuse by Mr Bennell, nor did it receive any complaint about sexual abuse by him. CLUB STATEMENT: Barry Bennell #CreweAlexhttps://t.co/nKXRpwko49pic.twitter.com/gYhmBYB6JC— Crewe Alexandra F.C. (@crewealexfc) February 15, 2018 “The club wishes to make it absolutely clear that had it had any suspicion or belief that Mr Bennell was committing acts of abuse... the club would have informed the police.” Lord Carlile, the eminent barrister who prosecuted Bennell in 1998, claimed the scandal was “brushed under the carpet” by Crewe, whom he accused of “institutional failure” over their former youth coach. It has also emerged that former Crewe manager Dario Gradi, the club’s director of football who has been suspended by the FA pending an investigation into sexual abuse in football, wrote a letter to a court in Jacksonville, Florida, in 1994 in support of Bennell, who was facing six charges of child abuse to which he later pleaded guilty. Gradi is expected to face fresh scrutiny after praising Bennell for his “great ability to communicate with kids.”
Man City and Crewe could face paying millions in compensation to Barry Bennell's victims
Manchester City and Crewe Alexandra are facing the prospect of large-scale legal action and compensation bills running into millions of pounds from victims of the serial paedophile Barry Bennell. Bennell, who worked as a youth coach and scout for City and Crewe among others, was found guilty at Liverpool Crown Court on Thursday of 43 counts of child sexual abuse against 11 victims as the horrifying scale of his crimes begins to emerge. It is understood the number of victims assaulted by Bennell – who is still under police investigation – could easily exceed 100 after 86 more people came forward to report abuse by him. Bennell, 64, described at the trial as a “child molester on an industrial scale”, had already been convicted of abusing 15 boys in the UK and one in the United States. Bennell will be sentenced on Monday. City and Crewe are two of the clubs most seriously implicated and could be the subject of a civil group action from victims. The court heard three former junior footballers are already suing City after civil cases were lodged in March 2016 while one is planning to sue Crewe and the FA for damages. Three other complainants in the current trial have sought legal ­advice on a potential compensation claim and it is believed others could follow. Dino Nocivelli, one of the country’s leading lawyers for child abuse victims who is representing a substantial number of victims in this case, said: “They have got quite a large-scale problem on their hands.” Three of Bennell's victims talk to the media outside court on Thursday Credit: PA City have been accused of putting hundreds of boys in danger after it emerged one of their coaches, Steve Fleet, had warned in the Seventies that it was “general knowledge” Bennell was a risk to children, long before he joined Crewe in 1985. “People would say he [Bennell] was ‘dodgy’ and if his name was brought up everyone would shake their heads,” said Fleet. One of Bennell’s victims, Gary Cliffe, who was at City when he was abused between the ages of 11 and 15, told how Bennell even once abused them on the club’s Maine Road pitch. “If those in positions of responsibility had challenged Bennell, hundreds of wrecked lives could have been saved,” Cliffe, 47, told The Guardian. One of Bennell’s victims told ­Liverpool Crown Court he was targeted “straight away” in Bennell’s Mercedes when he started to give him lifts to and from City’s then training ground at Platt Lane. Bennell was said by another complainant to have been treated like “God” at Maine Road. Jurors also heard from a third complainant that he thought City officials Ken Barnes and Mike Grimsley had known Bennell was targeting boys. One City director at the time of Bennell’s association with the club, Simon Cussons, was interviewed by the BBC last year, although he died before City had been able to conduct their own interview with him. It is understood City were scheduled to interview Cussons. In Channel 4’s Dispatches documentary in 1997, Chris Muir, a City director at the time, was asked about one parent writing to City to complain Bennell had boys in his room late at night on trips away and explained “football allowed him to stay because he was producing the goods”. An artist's sketch of Bennell in court Credit: PA Yet it has emerged police had interviewed Barnes and Muir, in addition to Fleet and another member of City’s youth team staff, Terry Farrell, when Bennell was arrested in Florida in 1994. A Dispatches documentary Football’s Wall of Silence, which aired on Channel 4 last night, reported detectives investigating that 1994 case said Barnes was “very cagey”. City began their QC-led inquiry 15 months ago and said on Thursday they had identified another alleged paedophile, John Broome, now deceased, with whom they have “potential historic connections”. City added Broome was “not believed to be linked to Bennell”. City are thought to have taken more than 100 statements from victims, family members, coaches, former employees and other figures and dedicated around 5,000 hours to a review that has so far cost in excess of £1 million. Crewe expressed its “deepest sympathies to the victims of Barry Bennell” but insisted it was “not aware of any sexual abuse by Mr Bennell, nor did it receive any complaint about sexual abuse by him. CLUB STATEMENT: Barry Bennell #CreweAlexhttps://t.co/nKXRpwko49pic.twitter.com/gYhmBYB6JC— Crewe Alexandra F.C. (@crewealexfc) February 15, 2018 “The club wishes to make it absolutely clear that had it had any suspicion or belief that Mr Bennell was committing acts of abuse... the club would have informed the police.” Lord Carlile, the eminent barrister who prosecuted Bennell in 1998, claimed the scandal was “brushed under the carpet” by Crewe, whom he accused of “institutional failure” over their former youth coach. It has also emerged that former Crewe manager Dario Gradi, the club’s director of football who has been suspended by the FA pending an investigation into sexual abuse in football, wrote a letter to a court in Jacksonville, Florida, in 1994 in support of Bennell, who was facing six charges of child abuse to which he later pleaded guilty. Gradi is expected to face fresh scrutiny after praising Bennell for his “great ability to communicate with kids.”
Barry Bennell, the former Crewe Alexandra coach and Manchester City scout, has been found guilty of seven further offences against boys.
Former youth coach Bennell guilty of seven more sex assaults
Barry Bennell, the former Crewe Alexandra coach and Manchester City scout, has been found guilty of seven further offences against boys.
Alexis Sanchez and Henrikh Mkhitaryan completed their swap deal between Manchester United and Arsenal on Monday, treading a well-worn path of transfers between the two clubs over the years. Here, we look back at 14 players who switched sides and how they got on. Paddy Sloan Manchester United: 1938-1939 (0 apps; 0 goals); Arsenal: 1946-48 (33 apps, 1 goal) Irish footballer who left Manchester United for Tranmere before the Second World War without making an appearance. After, he decided to join Arsenal where he established himself as a first-team regular in the 1946-47 season before losing his place and moving to Italy. Among footballers who played for both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland national teams. Verdict: [Performed better for] Arsenal David Herd Arsenal: 1954-1961 (166 apps, 99 goals); Manchester United: 1961-1968 (265 apps, 145 goals) Herd enjoyed fruitful spells at both clubs, acquiring strike-rates that bettered a goal every two games. After helping Arsenal to third place in the league 1959, Sir Matt Busby swooped for the former Stockport player in 1961. Herd went on to score two goals in a victorious FA Cup final for United against Leicester City in 1963 before becoming Division One champions in 1965. Verdict: Manchester United Ian Ure Arsenal: 1963-1969 (202 apps, 2 goals); Manchester United: 1969-1971 (65 apps, 1 goal) Arsenal manager Billy Wright moved hastily to bring the Scottish defender to London following an impressive spell at Dundee. However, Ure struggled with his move south of the border culminating in a shocking display in the 1969 League Cup final against Swindon. He departed for United that summer where he stayed for just two seasons before moving to Motherwell. Verdict: Neither George Graham Arsenal: 1966-1972 (308 apps, 77 goals); Manchester United: 1972-1974 (46 apps, 2 goals) As a midfielder or forward Graham’s playing career at the London club was impressive. He was a pivotal creative figure as Arsenal achieved the First Division and FA Cup double in 1971. He crossed to United in 1972 following the arrival of Alan Ball at Highbury but stayed for just under two years. The Scot would go on to win two First Division titles with Arsenal (1989 and 1991), the Uefa Cup (1994), the FA Cup (1993), two League Cups (1987 and 1993) in a nine-year spell. Verdict: Arsenal Graham won two First Division titles with Arsenal Credit: Getty Images Jimmy Rimmer Manchester United: 1965-1974 (46 apps, 0 goals); Arsenal: 1974-1977 (apps, 146, 0 goals) After spending nine years as understudy to Alex Stepney, Rimmer’s impressive loan spell at Swansea was enough to convince Bertie Mee that he could succeed as No1 at Highbury. By the following season Rimmer had become Arsenal's first-choice 'keeper. In 1975, he won Arsenal’s Player of the Year award and an England cap followed a year later. Verdict: Arsenal Brian Kidd Manchester United 1967-1974 (264 apps, 70 goals); Arsenal 1974-1976 (90 apps, 34 goals) The forward’s time at United was one of immense highs and lows. From scoring in United’s European Cup final triumph over Benfica in 1968, he suffered relegation with the same club six years later. He was top goal-scorer for Arsenal in his first season at the club, but failed to leave a lasting impact on the club. Verdict: Manchester United Kidd, here playing in the 1968 European Cup final at Wembley Credit: Getty/ALLSPORT Frank Stapleton Arsenal: 1971-1981 (300 apps, 108 goals); Manchester United: 1981-1987 (288 apps, 78 goals) The original RVP, Stapleton’s time at Arsenal was one of disappointment due to a lack of team success. He participated in three successive FA Cup finals, two of which ended in defeat. A familiar tale of Arsenal finishing fourth and failing to sign star players frustrated Stapleton. In 1981 he moved to the more ambitious United where he claimed two FA Cup winners’ medals in 1983 and 1985. Verdict: Manchester United Viv Anderson Arsenal: 1984-1987 (150 apps, 15 goals); Manchester United: 1987-1991 (64 apps, 4 goals) Widely known for being the first black footballer to represent England in a full international, defender Anderson was part of the Arsenal side that claimed the League Cup in 1987 and famously scored against Tottenham in the semi-final. Shortly afterwards, however, Anderson moved up north, achieving the rather impressive title of being Sir Alex Ferguson’s first signing at Manchester United. Verdict: Arsenal Leighton moved to Arsenal but did not feature for the club Credit: Getty Images Jim Leighton Manchester United 1988-1991 (94 caps); Arsenal 1991 (0 apps) After following Sir Alex Ferguson to Manchester from Aberdeen, Scottish goalkeeper Leighton struggled to hold down a position in the first team. His loan spell at Arsenal proved even more difficult to secure game-time, he never made a senior appearance for the north Londoners. Verdict: Manchester United David Platt Manchester United 1982-1985 (0 apps); Arsenal 1995-1998 (108 apps, 15 goals) Platt signed his first professional contract at Manchester United but moved on to Crewe Alexandra after failing to break in to the first team at Old Trafford. The dynamic midfielder fared much better at Arsenal, later in his career after successful stints in Italy with Juventus and Sampdoria. In his first season with Arsenal, Platt helped the Gunners secure Uefa Cup football with a fifth-placed finish. A Premier League triumph followed in 1998 in Platt’s final season at the club. Verdict: Arsenal Cole won the treble with Manchester United Credit: Andrew Budd/Action Images Andy Cole Arsenal: 1989-1992 (2 apps, 0 goals); Manchester United: 1995-2001 (195 apps, 93 goals) The striker began a peripatetic journey across a variety of top-division clubs at Arsenal, having graduated from the academy, but never managed to start a game for the Gunners, appearing twice as off the subs' bench. It was quite a different story at United however. After a £7million move from Newcastle in 1995, Cole won three Premier League titles at Old Trafford, including one as part of the stunning Treble winning season of 1998/1999. Verdict: Manchester United Mikael Silvestre Manchester United 1999-2008 (361 apps, 10 goals); Arsenal 2008-2010 (46 apps, 6 goals) French international defender Silvestre enjoyed vast success during his time at Old Trafford. The Frenchman earned four Premier League titles, one Champions League winners’ medal and FA Cup and League Cup triumphs before Sir Alex Ferguson deemed him surplus to requirements. A move to Arsenal followed in 2008 by which time his peak had passed. Verdict: Manchester United Robin van Persie and Danny Welbeck were more successful at Manchester United Credit: Getty Images Robin van Persie Arsenal: 2004-2012 (279 apps, 132 goals); Manchester United: 2012-2015 (105 apps, 58 goals) A player that has best epitomised the difference between the two clubs in recent times, the Dutch striker was captain when he departed the Emirates Stadium in 2012 to hunt trophies under Sir Alex Ferguson. It worked, securing the Premier League title in his first season at Old Trafford while also being the top scorer in the division. Verdict: Manchester United Alexis Sanchez-Henrikh Mkhitarayan swap deal | All you need to know around the big football transfer Danny Welbeck Manchester United: 2008-2014 (142 apps, 29 goals); Arsenal: 2014-present (91 apps, 22 goals) Left Manchester United for Arsenal in 2014 after a promising, though short of fulfilling, spell in the first-team, featuring 27 times in Manchester United's 2012-13 title-winning season. His time at the Emirates has been hampered by injury, while he has only featured four times for England in the last three seasons. Verdict: Manchester United
14 players who featured for both Arsenal and Manchester United – and where they performed best
Alexis Sanchez and Henrikh Mkhitaryan completed their swap deal between Manchester United and Arsenal on Monday, treading a well-worn path of transfers between the two clubs over the years. Here, we look back at 14 players who switched sides and how they got on. Paddy Sloan Manchester United: 1938-1939 (0 apps; 0 goals); Arsenal: 1946-48 (33 apps, 1 goal) Irish footballer who left Manchester United for Tranmere before the Second World War without making an appearance. After, he decided to join Arsenal where he established himself as a first-team regular in the 1946-47 season before losing his place and moving to Italy. Among footballers who played for both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland national teams. Verdict: [Performed better for] Arsenal David Herd Arsenal: 1954-1961 (166 apps, 99 goals); Manchester United: 1961-1968 (265 apps, 145 goals) Herd enjoyed fruitful spells at both clubs, acquiring strike-rates that bettered a goal every two games. After helping Arsenal to third place in the league 1959, Sir Matt Busby swooped for the former Stockport player in 1961. Herd went on to score two goals in a victorious FA Cup final for United against Leicester City in 1963 before becoming Division One champions in 1965. Verdict: Manchester United Ian Ure Arsenal: 1963-1969 (202 apps, 2 goals); Manchester United: 1969-1971 (65 apps, 1 goal) Arsenal manager Billy Wright moved hastily to bring the Scottish defender to London following an impressive spell at Dundee. However, Ure struggled with his move south of the border culminating in a shocking display in the 1969 League Cup final against Swindon. He departed for United that summer where he stayed for just two seasons before moving to Motherwell. Verdict: Neither George Graham Arsenal: 1966-1972 (308 apps, 77 goals); Manchester United: 1972-1974 (46 apps, 2 goals) As a midfielder or forward Graham’s playing career at the London club was impressive. He was a pivotal creative figure as Arsenal achieved the First Division and FA Cup double in 1971. He crossed to United in 1972 following the arrival of Alan Ball at Highbury but stayed for just under two years. The Scot would go on to win two First Division titles with Arsenal (1989 and 1991), the Uefa Cup (1994), the FA Cup (1993), two League Cups (1987 and 1993) in a nine-year spell. Verdict: Arsenal Graham won two First Division titles with Arsenal Credit: Getty Images Jimmy Rimmer Manchester United: 1965-1974 (46 apps, 0 goals); Arsenal: 1974-1977 (apps, 146, 0 goals) After spending nine years as understudy to Alex Stepney, Rimmer’s impressive loan spell at Swansea was enough to convince Bertie Mee that he could succeed as No1 at Highbury. By the following season Rimmer had become Arsenal's first-choice 'keeper. In 1975, he won Arsenal’s Player of the Year award and an England cap followed a year later. Verdict: Arsenal Brian Kidd Manchester United 1967-1974 (264 apps, 70 goals); Arsenal 1974-1976 (90 apps, 34 goals) The forward’s time at United was one of immense highs and lows. From scoring in United’s European Cup final triumph over Benfica in 1968, he suffered relegation with the same club six years later. He was top goal-scorer for Arsenal in his first season at the club, but failed to leave a lasting impact on the club. Verdict: Manchester United Kidd, here playing in the 1968 European Cup final at Wembley Credit: Getty/ALLSPORT Frank Stapleton Arsenal: 1971-1981 (300 apps, 108 goals); Manchester United: 1981-1987 (288 apps, 78 goals) The original RVP, Stapleton’s time at Arsenal was one of disappointment due to a lack of team success. He participated in three successive FA Cup finals, two of which ended in defeat. A familiar tale of Arsenal finishing fourth and failing to sign star players frustrated Stapleton. In 1981 he moved to the more ambitious United where he claimed two FA Cup winners’ medals in 1983 and 1985. Verdict: Manchester United Viv Anderson Arsenal: 1984-1987 (150 apps, 15 goals); Manchester United: 1987-1991 (64 apps, 4 goals) Widely known for being the first black footballer to represent England in a full international, defender Anderson was part of the Arsenal side that claimed the League Cup in 1987 and famously scored against Tottenham in the semi-final. Shortly afterwards, however, Anderson moved up north, achieving the rather impressive title of being Sir Alex Ferguson’s first signing at Manchester United. Verdict: Arsenal Leighton moved to Arsenal but did not feature for the club Credit: Getty Images Jim Leighton Manchester United 1988-1991 (94 caps); Arsenal 1991 (0 apps) After following Sir Alex Ferguson to Manchester from Aberdeen, Scottish goalkeeper Leighton struggled to hold down a position in the first team. His loan spell at Arsenal proved even more difficult to secure game-time, he never made a senior appearance for the north Londoners. Verdict: Manchester United David Platt Manchester United 1982-1985 (0 apps); Arsenal 1995-1998 (108 apps, 15 goals) Platt signed his first professional contract at Manchester United but moved on to Crewe Alexandra after failing to break in to the first team at Old Trafford. The dynamic midfielder fared much better at Arsenal, later in his career after successful stints in Italy with Juventus and Sampdoria. In his first season with Arsenal, Platt helped the Gunners secure Uefa Cup football with a fifth-placed finish. A Premier League triumph followed in 1998 in Platt’s final season at the club. Verdict: Arsenal Cole won the treble with Manchester United Credit: Andrew Budd/Action Images Andy Cole Arsenal: 1989-1992 (2 apps, 0 goals); Manchester United: 1995-2001 (195 apps, 93 goals) The striker began a peripatetic journey across a variety of top-division clubs at Arsenal, having graduated from the academy, but never managed to start a game for the Gunners, appearing twice as off the subs' bench. It was quite a different story at United however. After a £7million move from Newcastle in 1995, Cole won three Premier League titles at Old Trafford, including one as part of the stunning Treble winning season of 1998/1999. Verdict: Manchester United Mikael Silvestre Manchester United 1999-2008 (361 apps, 10 goals); Arsenal 2008-2010 (46 apps, 6 goals) French international defender Silvestre enjoyed vast success during his time at Old Trafford. The Frenchman earned four Premier League titles, one Champions League winners’ medal and FA Cup and League Cup triumphs before Sir Alex Ferguson deemed him surplus to requirements. A move to Arsenal followed in 2008 by which time his peak had passed. Verdict: Manchester United Robin van Persie and Danny Welbeck were more successful at Manchester United Credit: Getty Images Robin van Persie Arsenal: 2004-2012 (279 apps, 132 goals); Manchester United: 2012-2015 (105 apps, 58 goals) A player that has best epitomised the difference between the two clubs in recent times, the Dutch striker was captain when he departed the Emirates Stadium in 2012 to hunt trophies under Sir Alex Ferguson. It worked, securing the Premier League title in his first season at Old Trafford while also being the top scorer in the division. Verdict: Manchester United Alexis Sanchez-Henrikh Mkhitarayan swap deal | All you need to know around the big football transfer Danny Welbeck Manchester United: 2008-2014 (142 apps, 29 goals); Arsenal: 2014-present (91 apps, 22 goals) Left Manchester United for Arsenal in 2014 after a promising, though short of fulfilling, spell in the first-team, featuring 27 times in Manchester United's 2012-13 title-winning season. His time at the Emirates has been hampered by injury, while he has only featured four times for England in the last three seasons. Verdict: Manchester United
Alexis Sanchez and Henrikh Mkhitaryan completed their swap deal between Manchester United and Arsenal on Monday, treading a well-worn path of transfers between the two clubs over the years. Here, we look back at 14 players who switched sides and how they got on. Paddy Sloan Manchester United: 1938-1939 (0 apps; 0 goals); Arsenal: 1946-48 (33 apps, 1 goal) Irish footballer who left Manchester United for Tranmere before the Second World War without making an appearance. After, he decided to join Arsenal where he established himself as a first-team regular in the 1946-47 season before losing his place and moving to Italy. Among footballers who played for both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland national teams. Verdict: [Performed better for] Arsenal David Herd Arsenal: 1954-1961 (166 apps, 99 goals); Manchester United: 1961-1968 (265 apps, 145 goals) Herd enjoyed fruitful spells at both clubs, acquiring strike-rates that bettered a goal every two games. After helping Arsenal to third place in the league 1959, Sir Matt Busby swooped for the former Stockport player in 1961. Herd went on to score two goals in a victorious FA Cup final for United against Leicester City in 1963 before becoming Division One champions in 1965. Verdict: Manchester United Ian Ure Arsenal: 1963-1969 (202 apps, 2 goals); Manchester United: 1969-1971 (65 apps, 1 goal) Arsenal manager Billy Wright moved hastily to bring the Scottish defender to London following an impressive spell at Dundee. However, Ure struggled with his move south of the border culminating in a shocking display in the 1969 League Cup final against Swindon. He departed for United that summer where he stayed for just two seasons before moving to Motherwell. Verdict: Neither George Graham Arsenal: 1966-1972 (308 apps, 77 goals); Manchester United: 1972-1974 (46 apps, 2 goals) As a midfielder or forward Graham’s playing career at the London club was impressive. He was a pivotal creative figure as Arsenal achieved the First Division and FA Cup double in 1971. He crossed to United in 1972 following the arrival of Alan Ball at Highbury but stayed for just under two years. The Scot would go on to win two First Division titles with Arsenal (1989 and 1991), the Uefa Cup (1994), the FA Cup (1993), two League Cups (1987 and 1993) in a nine-year spell. Verdict: Arsenal Graham won two First Division titles with Arsenal Credit: Getty Images Jimmy Rimmer Manchester United: 1965-1974 (46 apps, 0 goals); Arsenal: 1974-1977 (apps, 146, 0 goals) After spending nine years as understudy to Alex Stepney, Rimmer’s impressive loan spell at Swansea was enough to convince Bertie Mee that he could succeed as No1 at Highbury. By the following season Rimmer had become Arsenal's first-choice 'keeper. In 1975, he won Arsenal’s Player of the Year award and an England cap followed a year later. Verdict: Arsenal Brian Kidd Manchester United 1967-1974 (264 apps, 70 goals); Arsenal 1974-1976 (90 apps, 34 goals) The forward’s time at United was one of immense highs and lows. From scoring in United’s European Cup final triumph over Benfica in 1968, he suffered relegation with the same club six years later. He was top goal-scorer for Arsenal in his first season at the club, but failed to leave a lasting impact on the club. Verdict: Manchester United Kidd, here playing in the 1968 European Cup final at Wembley Credit: Getty/ALLSPORT Frank Stapleton Arsenal: 1971-1981 (300 apps, 108 goals); Manchester United: 1981-1987 (288 apps, 78 goals) The original RVP, Stapleton’s time at Arsenal was one of disappointment due to a lack of team success. He participated in three successive FA Cup finals, two of which ended in defeat. A familiar tale of Arsenal finishing fourth and failing to sign star players frustrated Stapleton. In 1981 he moved to the more ambitious United where he claimed two FA Cup winners’ medals in 1983 and 1985. Verdict: Manchester United Viv Anderson Arsenal: 1984-1987 (150 apps, 15 goals); Manchester United: 1987-1991 (64 apps, 4 goals) Widely known for being the first black footballer to represent England in a full international, defender Anderson was part of the Arsenal side that claimed the League Cup in 1987 and famously scored against Tottenham in the semi-final. Shortly afterwards, however, Anderson moved up north, achieving the rather impressive title of being Sir Alex Ferguson’s first signing at Manchester United. Verdict: Arsenal Leighton moved to Arsenal but did not feature for the club Credit: Getty Images Jim Leighton Manchester United 1988-1991 (94 caps); Arsenal 1991 (0 apps) After following Sir Alex Ferguson to Manchester from Aberdeen, Scottish goalkeeper Leighton struggled to hold down a position in the first team. His loan spell at Arsenal proved even more difficult to secure game-time, he never made a senior appearance for the north Londoners. Verdict: Manchester United David Platt Manchester United 1982-1985 (0 apps); Arsenal 1995-1998 (108 apps, 15 goals) Platt signed his first professional contract at Manchester United but moved on to Crewe Alexandra after failing to break in to the first team at Old Trafford. The dynamic midfielder fared much better at Arsenal, later in his career after successful stints in Italy with Juventus and Sampdoria. In his first season with Arsenal, Platt helped the Gunners secure Uefa Cup football with a fifth-placed finish. A Premier League triumph followed in 1998 in Platt’s final season at the club. Verdict: Arsenal Cole won the treble with Manchester United Credit: Andrew Budd/Action Images Andy Cole Arsenal: 1989-1992 (2 apps, 0 goals); Manchester United: 1995-2001 (195 apps, 93 goals) The striker began a peripatetic journey across a variety of top-division clubs at Arsenal, having graduated from the academy, but never managed to start a game for the Gunners, appearing twice as off the subs' bench. It was quite a different story at United however. After a £7million move from Newcastle in 1995, Cole won three Premier League titles at Old Trafford, including one as part of the stunning Treble winning season of 1998/1999. Verdict: Manchester United Mikael Silvestre Manchester United 1999-2008 (361 apps, 10 goals); Arsenal 2008-2010 (46 apps, 6 goals) French international defender Silvestre enjoyed vast success during his time at Old Trafford. The Frenchman earned four Premier League titles, one Champions League winners’ medal and FA Cup and League Cup triumphs before Sir Alex Ferguson deemed him surplus to requirements. A move to Arsenal followed in 2008 by which time his peak had passed. Verdict: Manchester United Robin van Persie and Danny Welbeck were more successful at Manchester United Credit: Getty Images Robin van Persie Arsenal: 2004-2012 (279 apps, 132 goals); Manchester United: 2012-2015 (105 apps, 58 goals) A player that has best epitomised the difference between the two clubs in recent times, the Dutch striker was captain when he departed the Emirates Stadium in 2012 to hunt trophies under Sir Alex Ferguson. It worked, securing the Premier League title in his first season at Old Trafford while also being the top scorer in the division. Verdict: Manchester United Alexis Sanchez-Henrikh Mkhitarayan swap deal | All you need to know around the big football transfer Danny Welbeck Manchester United: 2008-2014 (142 apps, 29 goals); Arsenal: 2014-present (91 apps, 22 goals) Left Manchester United for Arsenal in 2014 after a promising, though short of fulfilling, spell in the first-team, featuring 27 times in Manchester United's 2012-13 title-winning season. His time at the Emirates has been hampered by injury, while he has only featured four times for England in the last three seasons. Verdict: Manchester United
14 players who featured for both Arsenal and Manchester United – and where they performed best
Alexis Sanchez and Henrikh Mkhitaryan completed their swap deal between Manchester United and Arsenal on Monday, treading a well-worn path of transfers between the two clubs over the years. Here, we look back at 14 players who switched sides and how they got on. Paddy Sloan Manchester United: 1938-1939 (0 apps; 0 goals); Arsenal: 1946-48 (33 apps, 1 goal) Irish footballer who left Manchester United for Tranmere before the Second World War without making an appearance. After, he decided to join Arsenal where he established himself as a first-team regular in the 1946-47 season before losing his place and moving to Italy. Among footballers who played for both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland national teams. Verdict: [Performed better for] Arsenal David Herd Arsenal: 1954-1961 (166 apps, 99 goals); Manchester United: 1961-1968 (265 apps, 145 goals) Herd enjoyed fruitful spells at both clubs, acquiring strike-rates that bettered a goal every two games. After helping Arsenal to third place in the league 1959, Sir Matt Busby swooped for the former Stockport player in 1961. Herd went on to score two goals in a victorious FA Cup final for United against Leicester City in 1963 before becoming Division One champions in 1965. Verdict: Manchester United Ian Ure Arsenal: 1963-1969 (202 apps, 2 goals); Manchester United: 1969-1971 (65 apps, 1 goal) Arsenal manager Billy Wright moved hastily to bring the Scottish defender to London following an impressive spell at Dundee. However, Ure struggled with his move south of the border culminating in a shocking display in the 1969 League Cup final against Swindon. He departed for United that summer where he stayed for just two seasons before moving to Motherwell. Verdict: Neither George Graham Arsenal: 1966-1972 (308 apps, 77 goals); Manchester United: 1972-1974 (46 apps, 2 goals) As a midfielder or forward Graham’s playing career at the London club was impressive. He was a pivotal creative figure as Arsenal achieved the First Division and FA Cup double in 1971. He crossed to United in 1972 following the arrival of Alan Ball at Highbury but stayed for just under two years. The Scot would go on to win two First Division titles with Arsenal (1989 and 1991), the Uefa Cup (1994), the FA Cup (1993), two League Cups (1987 and 1993) in a nine-year spell. Verdict: Arsenal Graham won two First Division titles with Arsenal Credit: Getty Images Jimmy Rimmer Manchester United: 1965-1974 (46 apps, 0 goals); Arsenal: 1974-1977 (apps, 146, 0 goals) After spending nine years as understudy to Alex Stepney, Rimmer’s impressive loan spell at Swansea was enough to convince Bertie Mee that he could succeed as No1 at Highbury. By the following season Rimmer had become Arsenal's first-choice 'keeper. In 1975, he won Arsenal’s Player of the Year award and an England cap followed a year later. Verdict: Arsenal Brian Kidd Manchester United 1967-1974 (264 apps, 70 goals); Arsenal 1974-1976 (90 apps, 34 goals) The forward’s time at United was one of immense highs and lows. From scoring in United’s European Cup final triumph over Benfica in 1968, he suffered relegation with the same club six years later. He was top goal-scorer for Arsenal in his first season at the club, but failed to leave a lasting impact on the club. Verdict: Manchester United Kidd, here playing in the 1968 European Cup final at Wembley Credit: Getty/ALLSPORT Frank Stapleton Arsenal: 1971-1981 (300 apps, 108 goals); Manchester United: 1981-1987 (288 apps, 78 goals) The original RVP, Stapleton’s time at Arsenal was one of disappointment due to a lack of team success. He participated in three successive FA Cup finals, two of which ended in defeat. A familiar tale of Arsenal finishing fourth and failing to sign star players frustrated Stapleton. In 1981 he moved to the more ambitious United where he claimed two FA Cup winners’ medals in 1983 and 1985. Verdict: Manchester United Viv Anderson Arsenal: 1984-1987 (150 apps, 15 goals); Manchester United: 1987-1991 (64 apps, 4 goals) Widely known for being the first black footballer to represent England in a full international, defender Anderson was part of the Arsenal side that claimed the League Cup in 1987 and famously scored against Tottenham in the semi-final. Shortly afterwards, however, Anderson moved up north, achieving the rather impressive title of being Sir Alex Ferguson’s first signing at Manchester United. Verdict: Arsenal Leighton moved to Arsenal but did not feature for the club Credit: Getty Images Jim Leighton Manchester United 1988-1991 (94 caps); Arsenal 1991 (0 apps) After following Sir Alex Ferguson to Manchester from Aberdeen, Scottish goalkeeper Leighton struggled to hold down a position in the first team. His loan spell at Arsenal proved even more difficult to secure game-time, he never made a senior appearance for the north Londoners. Verdict: Manchester United David Platt Manchester United 1982-1985 (0 apps); Arsenal 1995-1998 (108 apps, 15 goals) Platt signed his first professional contract at Manchester United but moved on to Crewe Alexandra after failing to break in to the first team at Old Trafford. The dynamic midfielder fared much better at Arsenal, later in his career after successful stints in Italy with Juventus and Sampdoria. In his first season with Arsenal, Platt helped the Gunners secure Uefa Cup football with a fifth-placed finish. A Premier League triumph followed in 1998 in Platt’s final season at the club. Verdict: Arsenal Cole won the treble with Manchester United Credit: Andrew Budd/Action Images Andy Cole Arsenal: 1989-1992 (2 apps, 0 goals); Manchester United: 1995-2001 (195 apps, 93 goals) The striker began a peripatetic journey across a variety of top-division clubs at Arsenal, having graduated from the academy, but never managed to start a game for the Gunners, appearing twice as off the subs' bench. It was quite a different story at United however. After a £7million move from Newcastle in 1995, Cole won three Premier League titles at Old Trafford, including one as part of the stunning Treble winning season of 1998/1999. Verdict: Manchester United Mikael Silvestre Manchester United 1999-2008 (361 apps, 10 goals); Arsenal 2008-2010 (46 apps, 6 goals) French international defender Silvestre enjoyed vast success during his time at Old Trafford. The Frenchman earned four Premier League titles, one Champions League winners’ medal and FA Cup and League Cup triumphs before Sir Alex Ferguson deemed him surplus to requirements. A move to Arsenal followed in 2008 by which time his peak had passed. Verdict: Manchester United Robin van Persie and Danny Welbeck were more successful at Manchester United Credit: Getty Images Robin van Persie Arsenal: 2004-2012 (279 apps, 132 goals); Manchester United: 2012-2015 (105 apps, 58 goals) A player that has best epitomised the difference between the two clubs in recent times, the Dutch striker was captain when he departed the Emirates Stadium in 2012 to hunt trophies under Sir Alex Ferguson. It worked, securing the Premier League title in his first season at Old Trafford while also being the top scorer in the division. Verdict: Manchester United Alexis Sanchez-Henrikh Mkhitarayan swap deal | All you need to know around the big football transfer Danny Welbeck Manchester United: 2008-2014 (142 apps, 29 goals); Arsenal: 2014-present (91 apps, 22 goals) Left Manchester United for Arsenal in 2014 after a promising, though short of fulfilling, spell in the first-team, featuring 27 times in Manchester United's 2012-13 title-winning season. His time at the Emirates has been hampered by injury, while he has only featured four times for England in the last three seasons. Verdict: Manchester United
Alexis Sanchez and Henrikh Mkhitaryan completed their swap deal between Manchester United and Arsenal on Monday, treading a well-worn path of transfers between the two clubs over the years. Here, we look back at 14 players who switched sides and how they got on. Paddy Sloan Manchester United: 1938-1939 (0 apps; 0 goals); Arsenal: 1946-48 (33 apps, 1 goal) Irish footballer who left Manchester United for Tranmere before the Second World War without making an appearance. After, he decided to join Arsenal where he established himself as a first-team regular in the 1946-47 season before losing his place and moving to Italy. Among footballers who played for both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland national teams. Verdict: [Performed better for] Arsenal David Herd Arsenal: 1954-1961 (166 apps, 99 goals); Manchester United: 1961-1968 (265 apps, 145 goals) Herd enjoyed fruitful spells at both clubs, acquiring strike-rates that bettered a goal every two games. After helping Arsenal to third place in the league 1959, Sir Matt Busby swooped for the former Stockport player in 1961. Herd went on to score two goals in a victorious FA Cup final for United against Leicester City in 1963 before becoming Division One champions in 1965. Verdict: Manchester United Ian Ure Arsenal: 1963-1969 (202 apps, 2 goals); Manchester United: 1969-1971 (65 apps, 1 goal) Arsenal manager Billy Wright moved hastily to bring the Scottish defender to London following an impressive spell at Dundee. However, Ure struggled with his move south of the border culminating in a shocking display in the 1969 League Cup final against Swindon. He departed for United that summer where he stayed for just two seasons before moving to Motherwell. Verdict: Neither George Graham Arsenal: 1966-1972 (308 apps, 77 goals); Manchester United: 1972-1974 (46 apps, 2 goals) As a midfielder or forward Graham’s playing career at the London club was impressive. He was a pivotal creative figure as Arsenal achieved the First Division and FA Cup double in 1971. He crossed to United in 1972 following the arrival of Alan Ball at Highbury but stayed for just under two years. The Scot would go on to win two First Division titles with Arsenal (1989 and 1991), the Uefa Cup (1994), the FA Cup (1993), two League Cups (1987 and 1993) in a nine-year spell. Verdict: Arsenal Graham won two First Division titles with Arsenal Credit: Getty Images Jimmy Rimmer Manchester United: 1965-1974 (46 apps, 0 goals); Arsenal: 1974-1977 (apps, 146, 0 goals) After spending nine years as understudy to Alex Stepney, Rimmer’s impressive loan spell at Swansea was enough to convince Bertie Mee that he could succeed as No1 at Highbury. By the following season Rimmer had become Arsenal's first-choice 'keeper. In 1975, he won Arsenal’s Player of the Year award and an England cap followed a year later. Verdict: Arsenal Brian Kidd Manchester United 1967-1974 (264 apps, 70 goals); Arsenal 1974-1976 (90 apps, 34 goals) The forward’s time at United was one of immense highs and lows. From scoring in United’s European Cup final triumph over Benfica in 1968, he suffered relegation with the same club six years later. He was top goal-scorer for Arsenal in his first season at the club, but failed to leave a lasting impact on the club. Verdict: Manchester United Kidd, here playing in the 1968 European Cup final at Wembley Credit: Getty/ALLSPORT Frank Stapleton Arsenal: 1971-1981 (300 apps, 108 goals); Manchester United: 1981-1987 (288 apps, 78 goals) The original RVP, Stapleton’s time at Arsenal was one of disappointment due to a lack of team success. He participated in three successive FA Cup finals, two of which ended in defeat. A familiar tale of Arsenal finishing fourth and failing to sign star players frustrated Stapleton. In 1981 he moved to the more ambitious United where he claimed two FA Cup winners’ medals in 1983 and 1985. Verdict: Manchester United Viv Anderson Arsenal: 1984-1987 (150 apps, 15 goals); Manchester United: 1987-1991 (64 apps, 4 goals) Widely known for being the first black footballer to represent England in a full international, defender Anderson was part of the Arsenal side that claimed the League Cup in 1987 and famously scored against Tottenham in the semi-final. Shortly afterwards, however, Anderson moved up north, achieving the rather impressive title of being Sir Alex Ferguson’s first signing at Manchester United. Verdict: Arsenal Leighton moved to Arsenal but did not feature for the club Credit: Getty Images Jim Leighton Manchester United 1988-1991 (94 caps); Arsenal 1991 (0 apps) After following Sir Alex Ferguson to Manchester from Aberdeen, Scottish goalkeeper Leighton struggled to hold down a position in the first team. His loan spell at Arsenal proved even more difficult to secure game-time, he never made a senior appearance for the north Londoners. Verdict: Manchester United David Platt Manchester United 1982-1985 (0 apps); Arsenal 1995-1998 (108 apps, 15 goals) Platt signed his first professional contract at Manchester United but moved on to Crewe Alexandra after failing to break in to the first team at Old Trafford. The dynamic midfielder fared much better at Arsenal, later in his career after successful stints in Italy with Juventus and Sampdoria. In his first season with Arsenal, Platt helped the Gunners secure Uefa Cup football with a fifth-placed finish. A Premier League triumph followed in 1998 in Platt’s final season at the club. Verdict: Arsenal Cole won the treble with Manchester United Credit: Andrew Budd/Action Images Andy Cole Arsenal: 1989-1992 (2 apps, 0 goals); Manchester United: 1995-2001 (195 apps, 93 goals) The striker began a peripatetic journey across a variety of top-division clubs at Arsenal, having graduated from the academy, but never managed to start a game for the Gunners, appearing twice as off the subs' bench. It was quite a different story at United however. After a £7million move from Newcastle in 1995, Cole won three Premier League titles at Old Trafford, including one as part of the stunning Treble winning season of 1998/1999. Verdict: Manchester United Mikael Silvestre Manchester United 1999-2008 (361 apps, 10 goals); Arsenal 2008-2010 (46 apps, 6 goals) French international defender Silvestre enjoyed vast success during his time at Old Trafford. The Frenchman earned four Premier League titles, one Champions League winners’ medal and FA Cup and League Cup triumphs before Sir Alex Ferguson deemed him surplus to requirements. A move to Arsenal followed in 2008 by which time his peak had passed. Verdict: Manchester United Robin van Persie and Danny Welbeck were more successful at Manchester United Credit: Getty Images Robin van Persie Arsenal: 2004-2012 (279 apps, 132 goals); Manchester United: 2012-2015 (105 apps, 58 goals) A player that has best epitomised the difference between the two clubs in recent times, the Dutch striker was captain when he departed the Emirates Stadium in 2012 to hunt trophies under Sir Alex Ferguson. It worked, securing the Premier League title in his first season at Old Trafford while also being the top scorer in the division. Verdict: Manchester United Alexis Sanchez-Henrikh Mkhitarayan swap deal | All you need to know around the big football transfer Danny Welbeck Manchester United: 2008-2014 (142 apps, 29 goals); Arsenal: 2014-present (91 apps, 22 goals) Left Manchester United for Arsenal in 2014 after a promising, though short of fulfilling, spell in the first-team, featuring 27 times in Manchester United's 2012-13 title-winning season. His time at the Emirates has been hampered by injury, while he has only featured four times for England in the last three seasons. Verdict: Manchester United
14 players who featured for both Arsenal and Manchester United – and where they performed best
Alexis Sanchez and Henrikh Mkhitaryan completed their swap deal between Manchester United and Arsenal on Monday, treading a well-worn path of transfers between the two clubs over the years. Here, we look back at 14 players who switched sides and how they got on. Paddy Sloan Manchester United: 1938-1939 (0 apps; 0 goals); Arsenal: 1946-48 (33 apps, 1 goal) Irish footballer who left Manchester United for Tranmere before the Second World War without making an appearance. After, he decided to join Arsenal where he established himself as a first-team regular in the 1946-47 season before losing his place and moving to Italy. Among footballers who played for both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland national teams. Verdict: [Performed better for] Arsenal David Herd Arsenal: 1954-1961 (166 apps, 99 goals); Manchester United: 1961-1968 (265 apps, 145 goals) Herd enjoyed fruitful spells at both clubs, acquiring strike-rates that bettered a goal every two games. After helping Arsenal to third place in the league 1959, Sir Matt Busby swooped for the former Stockport player in 1961. Herd went on to score two goals in a victorious FA Cup final for United against Leicester City in 1963 before becoming Division One champions in 1965. Verdict: Manchester United Ian Ure Arsenal: 1963-1969 (202 apps, 2 goals); Manchester United: 1969-1971 (65 apps, 1 goal) Arsenal manager Billy Wright moved hastily to bring the Scottish defender to London following an impressive spell at Dundee. However, Ure struggled with his move south of the border culminating in a shocking display in the 1969 League Cup final against Swindon. He departed for United that summer where he stayed for just two seasons before moving to Motherwell. Verdict: Neither George Graham Arsenal: 1966-1972 (308 apps, 77 goals); Manchester United: 1972-1974 (46 apps, 2 goals) As a midfielder or forward Graham’s playing career at the London club was impressive. He was a pivotal creative figure as Arsenal achieved the First Division and FA Cup double in 1971. He crossed to United in 1972 following the arrival of Alan Ball at Highbury but stayed for just under two years. The Scot would go on to win two First Division titles with Arsenal (1989 and 1991), the Uefa Cup (1994), the FA Cup (1993), two League Cups (1987 and 1993) in a nine-year spell. Verdict: Arsenal Graham won two First Division titles with Arsenal Credit: Getty Images Jimmy Rimmer Manchester United: 1965-1974 (46 apps, 0 goals); Arsenal: 1974-1977 (apps, 146, 0 goals) After spending nine years as understudy to Alex Stepney, Rimmer’s impressive loan spell at Swansea was enough to convince Bertie Mee that he could succeed as No1 at Highbury. By the following season Rimmer had become Arsenal's first-choice 'keeper. In 1975, he won Arsenal’s Player of the Year award and an England cap followed a year later. Verdict: Arsenal Brian Kidd Manchester United 1967-1974 (264 apps, 70 goals); Arsenal 1974-1976 (90 apps, 34 goals) The forward’s time at United was one of immense highs and lows. From scoring in United’s European Cup final triumph over Benfica in 1968, he suffered relegation with the same club six years later. He was top goal-scorer for Arsenal in his first season at the club, but failed to leave a lasting impact on the club. Verdict: Manchester United Kidd, here playing in the 1968 European Cup final at Wembley Credit: Getty/ALLSPORT Frank Stapleton Arsenal: 1971-1981 (300 apps, 108 goals); Manchester United: 1981-1987 (288 apps, 78 goals) The original RVP, Stapleton’s time at Arsenal was one of disappointment due to a lack of team success. He participated in three successive FA Cup finals, two of which ended in defeat. A familiar tale of Arsenal finishing fourth and failing to sign star players frustrated Stapleton. In 1981 he moved to the more ambitious United where he claimed two FA Cup winners’ medals in 1983 and 1985. Verdict: Manchester United Viv Anderson Arsenal: 1984-1987 (150 apps, 15 goals); Manchester United: 1987-1991 (64 apps, 4 goals) Widely known for being the first black footballer to represent England in a full international, defender Anderson was part of the Arsenal side that claimed the League Cup in 1987 and famously scored against Tottenham in the semi-final. Shortly afterwards, however, Anderson moved up north, achieving the rather impressive title of being Sir Alex Ferguson’s first signing at Manchester United. Verdict: Arsenal Leighton moved to Arsenal but did not feature for the club Credit: Getty Images Jim Leighton Manchester United 1988-1991 (94 caps); Arsenal 1991 (0 apps) After following Sir Alex Ferguson to Manchester from Aberdeen, Scottish goalkeeper Leighton struggled to hold down a position in the first team. His loan spell at Arsenal proved even more difficult to secure game-time, he never made a senior appearance for the north Londoners. Verdict: Manchester United David Platt Manchester United 1982-1985 (0 apps); Arsenal 1995-1998 (108 apps, 15 goals) Platt signed his first professional contract at Manchester United but moved on to Crewe Alexandra after failing to break in to the first team at Old Trafford. The dynamic midfielder fared much better at Arsenal, later in his career after successful stints in Italy with Juventus and Sampdoria. In his first season with Arsenal, Platt helped the Gunners secure Uefa Cup football with a fifth-placed finish. A Premier League triumph followed in 1998 in Platt’s final season at the club. Verdict: Arsenal Cole won the treble with Manchester United Credit: Andrew Budd/Action Images Andy Cole Arsenal: 1989-1992 (2 apps, 0 goals); Manchester United: 1995-2001 (195 apps, 93 goals) The striker began a peripatetic journey across a variety of top-division clubs at Arsenal, having graduated from the academy, but never managed to start a game for the Gunners, appearing twice as off the subs' bench. It was quite a different story at United however. After a £7million move from Newcastle in 1995, Cole won three Premier League titles at Old Trafford, including one as part of the stunning Treble winning season of 1998/1999. Verdict: Manchester United Mikael Silvestre Manchester United 1999-2008 (361 apps, 10 goals); Arsenal 2008-2010 (46 apps, 6 goals) French international defender Silvestre enjoyed vast success during his time at Old Trafford. The Frenchman earned four Premier League titles, one Champions League winners’ medal and FA Cup and League Cup triumphs before Sir Alex Ferguson deemed him surplus to requirements. A move to Arsenal followed in 2008 by which time his peak had passed. Verdict: Manchester United Robin van Persie and Danny Welbeck were more successful at Manchester United Credit: Getty Images Robin van Persie Arsenal: 2004-2012 (279 apps, 132 goals); Manchester United: 2012-2015 (105 apps, 58 goals) A player that has best epitomised the difference between the two clubs in recent times, the Dutch striker was captain when he departed the Emirates Stadium in 2012 to hunt trophies under Sir Alex Ferguson. It worked, securing the Premier League title in his first season at Old Trafford while also being the top scorer in the division. Verdict: Manchester United Alexis Sanchez-Henrikh Mkhitarayan swap deal | All you need to know around the big football transfer Danny Welbeck Manchester United: 2008-2014 (142 apps, 29 goals); Arsenal: 2014-present (91 apps, 22 goals) Left Manchester United for Arsenal in 2014 after a promising, though short of fulfilling, spell in the first-team, featuring 27 times in Manchester United's 2012-13 title-winning season. His time at the Emirates has been hampered by injury, while he has only featured four times for England in the last three seasons. Verdict: Manchester United
Alexis Sanchez and Henrikh Mkhitaryan completed their swap deal between Manchester United and Arsenal on Monday, treading a well-worn path of transfers between the two clubs over the years. Here, we look back at 14 players who switched sides and how they got on. Paddy Sloan Manchester United: 1938-1939 (0 apps; 0 goals); Arsenal: 1946-48 (33 apps, 1 goal) Irish footballer who left Manchester United for Tranmere before the Second World War without making an appearance. After, he decided to join Arsenal where he established himself as a first-team regular in the 1946-47 season before losing his place and moving to Italy. Among footballers who played for both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland national teams. Verdict: [Performed better for] Arsenal David Herd Arsenal: 1954-1961 (166 apps, 99 goals); Manchester United: 1961-1968 (265 apps, 145 goals) Herd enjoyed fruitful spells at both clubs, acquiring strike-rates that bettered a goal every two games. After helping Arsenal to third place in the league 1959, Sir Matt Busby swooped for the former Stockport player in 1961. Herd went on to score two goals in a victorious FA Cup final for United against Leicester City in 1963 before becoming Division One champions in 1965. Verdict: Manchester United Ian Ure Arsenal: 1963-1969 (202 apps, 2 goals); Manchester United: 1969-1971 (65 apps, 1 goal) Arsenal manager Billy Wright moved hastily to bring the Scottish defender to London following an impressive spell at Dundee. However, Ure struggled with his move south of the border culminating in a shocking display in the 1969 League Cup final against Swindon. He departed for United that summer where he stayed for just two seasons before moving to Motherwell. Verdict: Neither George Graham Arsenal: 1966-1972 (308 apps, 77 goals); Manchester United: 1972-1974 (46 apps, 2 goals) As a midfielder or forward Graham’s playing career at the London club was impressive. He was a pivotal creative figure as Arsenal achieved the First Division and FA Cup double in 1971. He crossed to United in 1972 following the arrival of Alan Ball at Highbury but stayed for just under two years. The Scot would go on to win two First Division titles with Arsenal (1989 and 1991), the Uefa Cup (1994), the FA Cup (1993), two League Cups (1987 and 1993) in a nine-year spell. Verdict: Arsenal Graham won two First Division titles with Arsenal Credit: Getty Images Jimmy Rimmer Manchester United: 1965-1974 (46 apps, 0 goals); Arsenal: 1974-1977 (apps, 146, 0 goals) After spending nine years as understudy to Alex Stepney, Rimmer’s impressive loan spell at Swansea was enough to convince Bertie Mee that he could succeed as No1 at Highbury. By the following season Rimmer had become Arsenal's first-choice 'keeper. In 1975, he won Arsenal’s Player of the Year award and an England cap followed a year later. Verdict: Arsenal Brian Kidd Manchester United 1967-1974 (264 apps, 70 goals); Arsenal 1974-1976 (90 apps, 34 goals) The forward’s time at United was one of immense highs and lows. From scoring in United’s European Cup final triumph over Benfica in 1968, he suffered relegation with the same club six years later. He was top goal-scorer for Arsenal in his first season at the club, but failed to leave a lasting impact on the club. Verdict: Manchester United Kidd, here playing in the 1968 European Cup final at Wembley Credit: Getty/ALLSPORT Frank Stapleton Arsenal: 1971-1981 (300 apps, 108 goals); Manchester United: 1981-1987 (288 apps, 78 goals) The original RVP, Stapleton’s time at Arsenal was one of disappointment due to a lack of team success. He participated in three successive FA Cup finals, two of which ended in defeat. A familiar tale of Arsenal finishing fourth and failing to sign star players frustrated Stapleton. In 1981 he moved to the more ambitious United where he claimed two FA Cup winners’ medals in 1983 and 1985. Verdict: Manchester United Viv Anderson Arsenal: 1984-1987 (150 apps, 15 goals); Manchester United: 1987-1991 (64 apps, 4 goals) Widely known for being the first black footballer to represent England in a full international, defender Anderson was part of the Arsenal side that claimed the League Cup in 1987 and famously scored against Tottenham in the semi-final. Shortly afterwards, however, Anderson moved up north, achieving the rather impressive title of being Sir Alex Ferguson’s first signing at Manchester United. Verdict: Arsenal Leighton moved to Arsenal but did not feature for the club Credit: Getty Images Jim Leighton Manchester United 1988-1991 (94 caps); Arsenal 1991 (0 apps) After following Sir Alex Ferguson to Manchester from Aberdeen, Scottish goalkeeper Leighton struggled to hold down a position in the first team. His loan spell at Arsenal proved even more difficult to secure game-time, he never made a senior appearance for the north Londoners. Verdict: Manchester United David Platt Manchester United 1982-1985 (0 apps); Arsenal 1995-1998 (108 apps, 15 goals) Platt signed his first professional contract at Manchester United but moved on to Crewe Alexandra after failing to break in to the first team at Old Trafford. The dynamic midfielder fared much better at Arsenal, later in his career after successful stints in Italy with Juventus and Sampdoria. In his first season with Arsenal, Platt helped the Gunners secure Uefa Cup football with a fifth-placed finish. A Premier League triumph followed in 1998 in Platt’s final season at the club. Verdict: Arsenal Cole won the treble with Manchester United Credit: Andrew Budd/Action Images Andy Cole Arsenal: 1989-1992 (2 apps, 0 goals); Manchester United: 1995-2001 (195 apps, 93 goals) The striker began a peripatetic journey across a variety of top-division clubs at Arsenal, having graduated from the academy, but never managed to start a game for the Gunners, appearing twice as off the subs' bench. It was quite a different story at United however. After a £7million move from Newcastle in 1995, Cole won three Premier League titles at Old Trafford, including one as part of the stunning Treble winning season of 1998/1999. Verdict: Manchester United Mikael Silvestre Manchester United 1999-2008 (361 apps, 10 goals); Arsenal 2008-2010 (46 apps, 6 goals) French international defender Silvestre enjoyed vast success during his time at Old Trafford. The Frenchman earned four Premier League titles, one Champions League winners’ medal and FA Cup and League Cup triumphs before Sir Alex Ferguson deemed him surplus to requirements. A move to Arsenal followed in 2008 by which time his peak had passed. Verdict: Manchester United Robin van Persie and Danny Welbeck were more successful at Manchester United Credit: Getty Images Robin van Persie Arsenal: 2004-2012 (279 apps, 132 goals); Manchester United: 2012-2015 (105 apps, 58 goals) A player that has best epitomised the difference between the two clubs in recent times, the Dutch striker was captain when he departed the Emirates Stadium in 2012 to hunt trophies under Sir Alex Ferguson. It worked, securing the Premier League title in his first season at Old Trafford while also being the top scorer in the division. Verdict: Manchester United Alexis Sanchez-Henrikh Mkhitarayan swap deal | All you need to know around the big football transfer Danny Welbeck Manchester United: 2008-2014 (142 apps, 29 goals); Arsenal: 2014-present (91 apps, 22 goals) Left Manchester United for Arsenal in 2014 after a promising, though short of fulfilling, spell in the first-team, featuring 27 times in Manchester United's 2012-13 title-winning season. His time at the Emirates has been hampered by injury, while he has only featured four times for England in the last three seasons. Verdict: Manchester United
14 players who featured for both Arsenal and Manchester United – and where they performed best
Alexis Sanchez and Henrikh Mkhitaryan completed their swap deal between Manchester United and Arsenal on Monday, treading a well-worn path of transfers between the two clubs over the years. Here, we look back at 14 players who switched sides and how they got on. Paddy Sloan Manchester United: 1938-1939 (0 apps; 0 goals); Arsenal: 1946-48 (33 apps, 1 goal) Irish footballer who left Manchester United for Tranmere before the Second World War without making an appearance. After, he decided to join Arsenal where he established himself as a first-team regular in the 1946-47 season before losing his place and moving to Italy. Among footballers who played for both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland national teams. Verdict: [Performed better for] Arsenal David Herd Arsenal: 1954-1961 (166 apps, 99 goals); Manchester United: 1961-1968 (265 apps, 145 goals) Herd enjoyed fruitful spells at both clubs, acquiring strike-rates that bettered a goal every two games. After helping Arsenal to third place in the league 1959, Sir Matt Busby swooped for the former Stockport player in 1961. Herd went on to score two goals in a victorious FA Cup final for United against Leicester City in 1963 before becoming Division One champions in 1965. Verdict: Manchester United Ian Ure Arsenal: 1963-1969 (202 apps, 2 goals); Manchester United: 1969-1971 (65 apps, 1 goal) Arsenal manager Billy Wright moved hastily to bring the Scottish defender to London following an impressive spell at Dundee. However, Ure struggled with his move south of the border culminating in a shocking display in the 1969 League Cup final against Swindon. He departed for United that summer where he stayed for just two seasons before moving to Motherwell. Verdict: Neither George Graham Arsenal: 1966-1972 (308 apps, 77 goals); Manchester United: 1972-1974 (46 apps, 2 goals) As a midfielder or forward Graham’s playing career at the London club was impressive. He was a pivotal creative figure as Arsenal achieved the First Division and FA Cup double in 1971. He crossed to United in 1972 following the arrival of Alan Ball at Highbury but stayed for just under two years. The Scot would go on to win two First Division titles with Arsenal (1989 and 1991), the Uefa Cup (1994), the FA Cup (1993), two League Cups (1987 and 1993) in a nine-year spell. Verdict: Arsenal Graham won two First Division titles with Arsenal Credit: Getty Images Jimmy Rimmer Manchester United: 1965-1974 (46 apps, 0 goals); Arsenal: 1974-1977 (apps, 146, 0 goals) After spending nine years as understudy to Alex Stepney, Rimmer’s impressive loan spell at Swansea was enough to convince Bertie Mee that he could succeed as No1 at Highbury. By the following season Rimmer had become Arsenal's first-choice 'keeper. In 1975, he won Arsenal’s Player of the Year award and an England cap followed a year later. Verdict: Arsenal Brian Kidd Manchester United 1967-1974 (264 apps, 70 goals); Arsenal 1974-1976 (90 apps, 34 goals) The forward’s time at United was one of immense highs and lows. From scoring in United’s European Cup final triumph over Benfica in 1968, he suffered relegation with the same club six years later. He was top goal-scorer for Arsenal in his first season at the club, but failed to leave a lasting impact on the club. Verdict: Manchester United Kidd, here playing in the 1968 European Cup final at Wembley Credit: Getty/ALLSPORT Frank Stapleton Arsenal: 1971-1981 (300 apps, 108 goals); Manchester United: 1981-1987 (288 apps, 78 goals) The original RVP, Stapleton’s time at Arsenal was one of disappointment due to a lack of team success. He participated in three successive FA Cup finals, two of which ended in defeat. A familiar tale of Arsenal finishing fourth and failing to sign star players frustrated Stapleton. In 1981 he moved to the more ambitious United where he claimed two FA Cup winners’ medals in 1983 and 1985. Verdict: Manchester United Viv Anderson Arsenal: 1984-1987 (150 apps, 15 goals); Manchester United: 1987-1991 (64 apps, 4 goals) Widely known for being the first black footballer to represent England in a full international, defender Anderson was part of the Arsenal side that claimed the League Cup in 1987 and famously scored against Tottenham in the semi-final. Shortly afterwards, however, Anderson moved up north, achieving the rather impressive title of being Sir Alex Ferguson’s first signing at Manchester United. Verdict: Arsenal Leighton moved to Arsenal but did not feature for the club Credit: Getty Images Jim Leighton Manchester United 1988-1991 (94 caps); Arsenal 1991 (0 apps) After following Sir Alex Ferguson to Manchester from Aberdeen, Scottish goalkeeper Leighton struggled to hold down a position in the first team. His loan spell at Arsenal proved even more difficult to secure game-time, he never made a senior appearance for the north Londoners. Verdict: Manchester United David Platt Manchester United 1982-1985 (0 apps); Arsenal 1995-1998 (108 apps, 15 goals) Platt signed his first professional contract at Manchester United but moved on to Crewe Alexandra after failing to break in to the first team at Old Trafford. The dynamic midfielder fared much better at Arsenal, later in his career after successful stints in Italy with Juventus and Sampdoria. In his first season with Arsenal, Platt helped the Gunners secure Uefa Cup football with a fifth-placed finish. A Premier League triumph followed in 1998 in Platt’s final season at the club. Verdict: Arsenal Cole won the treble with Manchester United Credit: Andrew Budd/Action Images Andy Cole Arsenal: 1989-1992 (2 apps, 0 goals); Manchester United: 1995-2001 (195 apps, 93 goals) The striker began a peripatetic journey across a variety of top-division clubs at Arsenal, having graduated from the academy, but never managed to start a game for the Gunners, appearing twice as off the subs' bench. It was quite a different story at United however. After a £7million move from Newcastle in 1995, Cole won three Premier League titles at Old Trafford, including one as part of the stunning Treble winning season of 1998/1999. Verdict: Manchester United Mikael Silvestre Manchester United 1999-2008 (361 apps, 10 goals); Arsenal 2008-2010 (46 apps, 6 goals) French international defender Silvestre enjoyed vast success during his time at Old Trafford. The Frenchman earned four Premier League titles, one Champions League winners’ medal and FA Cup and League Cup triumphs before Sir Alex Ferguson deemed him surplus to requirements. A move to Arsenal followed in 2008 by which time his peak had passed. Verdict: Manchester United Robin van Persie and Danny Welbeck were more successful at Manchester United Credit: Getty Images Robin van Persie Arsenal: 2004-2012 (279 apps, 132 goals); Manchester United: 2012-2015 (105 apps, 58 goals) A player that has best epitomised the difference between the two clubs in recent times, the Dutch striker was captain when he departed the Emirates Stadium in 2012 to hunt trophies under Sir Alex Ferguson. It worked, securing the Premier League title in his first season at Old Trafford while also being the top scorer in the division. Verdict: Manchester United Alexis Sanchez-Henrikh Mkhitarayan swap deal | All you need to know around the big football transfer Danny Welbeck Manchester United: 2008-2014 (142 apps, 29 goals); Arsenal: 2014-present (91 apps, 22 goals) Left Manchester United for Arsenal in 2014 after a promising, though short of fulfilling, spell in the first-team, featuring 27 times in Manchester United's 2012-13 title-winning season. His time at the Emirates has been hampered by injury, while he has only featured four times for England in the last three seasons. Verdict: Manchester United
Alexis Sanchez and Henrikh Mkhitaryan completed their swap deal between Manchester United and Arsenal on Monday, treading a well-worn path of transfers between the two clubs over the years. Here, we look back at 14 players who switched sides and how they got on. Paddy Sloan Manchester United: 1938-1939 (0 apps; 0 goals); Arsenal: 1946-48 (33 apps, 1 goal) Irish footballer who left Manchester United for Tranmere before the Second World War without making an appearance. After, he decided to join Arsenal where he established himself as a first-team regular in the 1946-47 season before losing his place and moving to Italy. Among footballers who played for both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland national teams. Verdict: [Performed better for] Arsenal David Herd Arsenal: 1954-1961 (166 apps, 99 goals); Manchester United: 1961-1968 (265 apps, 145 goals) Herd enjoyed fruitful spells at both clubs, acquiring strike-rates that bettered a goal every two games. After helping Arsenal to third place in the league 1959, Sir Matt Busby swooped for the former Stockport player in 1961. Herd went on to score two goals in a victorious FA Cup final for United against Leicester City in 1963 before becoming Division One champions in 1965. Verdict: Manchester United Ian Ure Arsenal: 1963-1969 (202 apps, 2 goals); Manchester United: 1969-1971 (65 apps, 1 goal) Arsenal manager Billy Wright moved hastily to bring the Scottish defender to London following an impressive spell at Dundee. However, Ure struggled with his move south of the border culminating in a shocking display in the 1969 League Cup final against Swindon. He departed for United that summer where he stayed for just two seasons before moving to Motherwell. Verdict: Neither George Graham Arsenal: 1966-1972 (308 apps, 77 goals); Manchester United: 1972-1974 (46 apps, 2 goals) As a midfielder or forward Graham’s playing career at the London club was impressive. He was a pivotal creative figure as Arsenal achieved the First Division and FA Cup double in 1971. He crossed to United in 1972 following the arrival of Alan Ball at Highbury but stayed for just under two years. The Scot would go on to win two First Division titles with Arsenal (1989 and 1991), the Uefa Cup (1994), the FA Cup (1993), two League Cups (1987 and 1993) in a nine-year spell. Verdict: Arsenal Graham won two First Division titles with Arsenal Credit: Getty Images Jimmy Rimmer Manchester United: 1965-1974 (46 apps, 0 goals); Arsenal: 1974-1977 (apps, 146, 0 goals) After spending nine years as understudy to Alex Stepney, Rimmer’s impressive loan spell at Swansea was enough to convince Bertie Mee that he could succeed as No1 at Highbury. By the following season Rimmer had become Arsenal's first-choice 'keeper. In 1975, he won Arsenal’s Player of the Year award and an England cap followed a year later. Verdict: Arsenal Brian Kidd Manchester United 1967-1974 (264 apps, 70 goals); Arsenal 1974-1976 (90 apps, 34 goals) The forward’s time at United was one of immense highs and lows. From scoring in United’s European Cup final triumph over Benfica in 1968, he suffered relegation with the same club six years later. He was top goal-scorer for Arsenal in his first season at the club, but failed to leave a lasting impact on the club. Verdict: Manchester United Kidd, here playing in the 1968 European Cup final at Wembley Credit: Getty/ALLSPORT Frank Stapleton Arsenal: 1971-1981 (300 apps, 108 goals); Manchester United: 1981-1987 (288 apps, 78 goals) The original RVP, Stapleton’s time at Arsenal was one of disappointment due to a lack of team success. He participated in three successive FA Cup finals, two of which ended in defeat. A familiar tale of Arsenal finishing fourth and failing to sign star players frustrated Stapleton. In 1981 he moved to the more ambitious United where he claimed two FA Cup winners’ medals in 1983 and 1985. Verdict: Manchester United Viv Anderson Arsenal: 1984-1987 (150 apps, 15 goals); Manchester United: 1987-1991 (64 apps, 4 goals) Widely known for being the first black footballer to represent England in a full international, defender Anderson was part of the Arsenal side that claimed the League Cup in 1987 and famously scored against Tottenham in the semi-final. Shortly afterwards, however, Anderson moved up north, achieving the rather impressive title of being Sir Alex Ferguson’s first signing at Manchester United. Verdict: Arsenal Leighton moved to Arsenal but did not feature for the club Credit: Getty Images Jim Leighton Manchester United 1988-1991 (94 caps); Arsenal 1991 (0 apps) After following Sir Alex Ferguson to Manchester from Aberdeen, Scottish goalkeeper Leighton struggled to hold down a position in the first team. His loan spell at Arsenal proved even more difficult to secure game-time, he never made a senior appearance for the north Londoners. Verdict: Manchester United David Platt Manchester United 1982-1985 (0 apps); Arsenal 1995-1998 (108 apps, 15 goals) Platt signed his first professional contract at Manchester United but moved on to Crewe Alexandra after failing to break in to the first team at Old Trafford. The dynamic midfielder fared much better at Arsenal, later in his career after successful stints in Italy with Juventus and Sampdoria. In his first season with Arsenal, Platt helped the Gunners secure Uefa Cup football with a fifth-placed finish. A Premier League triumph followed in 1998 in Platt’s final season at the club. Verdict: Arsenal Cole won the treble with Manchester United Credit: Andrew Budd/Action Images Andy Cole Arsenal: 1989-1992 (2 apps, 0 goals); Manchester United: 1995-2001 (195 apps, 93 goals) The striker began a peripatetic journey across a variety of top-division clubs at Arsenal, having graduated from the academy, but never managed to start a game for the Gunners, appearing twice as off the subs' bench. It was quite a different story at United however. After a £7million move from Newcastle in 1995, Cole won three Premier League titles at Old Trafford, including one as part of the stunning Treble winning season of 1998/1999. Verdict: Manchester United Mikael Silvestre Manchester United 1999-2008 (361 apps, 10 goals); Arsenal 2008-2010 (46 apps, 6 goals) French international defender Silvestre enjoyed vast success during his time at Old Trafford. The Frenchman earned four Premier League titles, one Champions League winners’ medal and FA Cup and League Cup triumphs before Sir Alex Ferguson deemed him surplus to requirements. A move to Arsenal followed in 2008 by which time his peak had passed. Verdict: Manchester United Robin van Persie and Danny Welbeck were more successful at Manchester United Credit: Getty Images Robin van Persie Arsenal: 2004-2012 (279 apps, 132 goals); Manchester United: 2012-2015 (105 apps, 58 goals) A player that has best epitomised the difference between the two clubs in recent times, the Dutch striker was captain when he departed the Emirates Stadium in 2012 to hunt trophies under Sir Alex Ferguson. It worked, securing the Premier League title in his first season at Old Trafford while also being the top scorer in the division. Verdict: Manchester United Alexis Sanchez-Henrikh Mkhitarayan swap deal | All you need to know around the big football transfer Danny Welbeck Manchester United: 2008-2014 (142 apps, 29 goals); Arsenal: 2014-present (91 apps, 22 goals) Left Manchester United for Arsenal in 2014 after a promising, though short of fulfilling, spell in the first-team, featuring 27 times in Manchester United's 2012-13 title-winning season. His time at the Emirates has been hampered by injury, while he has only featured four times for England in the last three seasons. Verdict: Manchester United
14 players who featured for both Arsenal and Manchester United – and where they performed best
Alexis Sanchez and Henrikh Mkhitaryan completed their swap deal between Manchester United and Arsenal on Monday, treading a well-worn path of transfers between the two clubs over the years. Here, we look back at 14 players who switched sides and how they got on. Paddy Sloan Manchester United: 1938-1939 (0 apps; 0 goals); Arsenal: 1946-48 (33 apps, 1 goal) Irish footballer who left Manchester United for Tranmere before the Second World War without making an appearance. After, he decided to join Arsenal where he established himself as a first-team regular in the 1946-47 season before losing his place and moving to Italy. Among footballers who played for both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland national teams. Verdict: [Performed better for] Arsenal David Herd Arsenal: 1954-1961 (166 apps, 99 goals); Manchester United: 1961-1968 (265 apps, 145 goals) Herd enjoyed fruitful spells at both clubs, acquiring strike-rates that bettered a goal every two games. After helping Arsenal to third place in the league 1959, Sir Matt Busby swooped for the former Stockport player in 1961. Herd went on to score two goals in a victorious FA Cup final for United against Leicester City in 1963 before becoming Division One champions in 1965. Verdict: Manchester United Ian Ure Arsenal: 1963-1969 (202 apps, 2 goals); Manchester United: 1969-1971 (65 apps, 1 goal) Arsenal manager Billy Wright moved hastily to bring the Scottish defender to London following an impressive spell at Dundee. However, Ure struggled with his move south of the border culminating in a shocking display in the 1969 League Cup final against Swindon. He departed for United that summer where he stayed for just two seasons before moving to Motherwell. Verdict: Neither George Graham Arsenal: 1966-1972 (308 apps, 77 goals); Manchester United: 1972-1974 (46 apps, 2 goals) As a midfielder or forward Graham’s playing career at the London club was impressive. He was a pivotal creative figure as Arsenal achieved the First Division and FA Cup double in 1971. He crossed to United in 1972 following the arrival of Alan Ball at Highbury but stayed for just under two years. The Scot would go on to win two First Division titles with Arsenal (1989 and 1991), the Uefa Cup (1994), the FA Cup (1993), two League Cups (1987 and 1993) in a nine-year spell. Verdict: Arsenal Graham won two First Division titles with Arsenal Credit: Getty Images Jimmy Rimmer Manchester United: 1965-1974 (46 apps, 0 goals); Arsenal: 1974-1977 (apps, 146, 0 goals) After spending nine years as understudy to Alex Stepney, Rimmer’s impressive loan spell at Swansea was enough to convince Bertie Mee that he could succeed as No1 at Highbury. By the following season Rimmer had become Arsenal's first-choice 'keeper. In 1975, he won Arsenal’s Player of the Year award and an England cap followed a year later. Verdict: Arsenal Brian Kidd Manchester United 1967-1974 (264 apps, 70 goals); Arsenal 1974-1976 (90 apps, 34 goals) The forward’s time at United was one of immense highs and lows. From scoring in United’s European Cup final triumph over Benfica in 1968, he suffered relegation with the same club six years later. He was top goal-scorer for Arsenal in his first season at the club, but failed to leave a lasting impact on the club. Verdict: Manchester United Kidd, here playing in the 1968 European Cup final at Wembley Credit: Getty/ALLSPORT Frank Stapleton Arsenal: 1971-1981 (300 apps, 108 goals); Manchester United: 1981-1987 (288 apps, 78 goals) The original RVP, Stapleton’s time at Arsenal was one of disappointment due to a lack of team success. He participated in three successive FA Cup finals, two of which ended in defeat. A familiar tale of Arsenal finishing fourth and failing to sign star players frustrated Stapleton. In 1981 he moved to the more ambitious United where he claimed two FA Cup winners’ medals in 1983 and 1985. Verdict: Manchester United Viv Anderson Arsenal: 1984-1987 (150 apps, 15 goals); Manchester United: 1987-1991 (64 apps, 4 goals) Widely known for being the first black footballer to represent England in a full international, defender Anderson was part of the Arsenal side that claimed the League Cup in 1987 and famously scored against Tottenham in the semi-final. Shortly afterwards, however, Anderson moved up north, achieving the rather impressive title of being Sir Alex Ferguson’s first signing at Manchester United. Verdict: Arsenal Leighton moved to Arsenal but did not feature for the club Credit: Getty Images Jim Leighton Manchester United 1988-1991 (94 caps); Arsenal 1991 (0 apps) After following Sir Alex Ferguson to Manchester from Aberdeen, Scottish goalkeeper Leighton struggled to hold down a position in the first team. His loan spell at Arsenal proved even more difficult to secure game-time, he never made a senior appearance for the north Londoners. Verdict: Manchester United David Platt Manchester United 1982-1985 (0 apps); Arsenal 1995-1998 (108 apps, 15 goals) Platt signed his first professional contract at Manchester United but moved on to Crewe Alexandra after failing to break in to the first team at Old Trafford. The dynamic midfielder fared much better at Arsenal, later in his career after successful stints in Italy with Juventus and Sampdoria. In his first season with Arsenal, Platt helped the Gunners secure Uefa Cup football with a fifth-placed finish. A Premier League triumph followed in 1998 in Platt’s final season at the club. Verdict: Arsenal Cole won the treble with Manchester United Credit: Andrew Budd/Action Images Andy Cole Arsenal: 1989-1992 (2 apps, 0 goals); Manchester United: 1995-2001 (195 apps, 93 goals) The striker began a peripatetic journey across a variety of top-division clubs at Arsenal, having graduated from the academy, but never managed to start a game for the Gunners, appearing twice as off the subs' bench. It was quite a different story at United however. After a £7million move from Newcastle in 1995, Cole won three Premier League titles at Old Trafford, including one as part of the stunning Treble winning season of 1998/1999. Verdict: Manchester United Mikael Silvestre Manchester United 1999-2008 (361 apps, 10 goals); Arsenal 2008-2010 (46 apps, 6 goals) French international defender Silvestre enjoyed vast success during his time at Old Trafford. The Frenchman earned four Premier League titles, one Champions League winners’ medal and FA Cup and League Cup triumphs before Sir Alex Ferguson deemed him surplus to requirements. A move to Arsenal followed in 2008 by which time his peak had passed. Verdict: Manchester United Robin van Persie and Danny Welbeck were more successful at Manchester United Credit: Getty Images Robin van Persie Arsenal: 2004-2012 (279 apps, 132 goals); Manchester United: 2012-2015 (105 apps, 58 goals) A player that has best epitomised the difference between the two clubs in recent times, the Dutch striker was captain when he departed the Emirates Stadium in 2012 to hunt trophies under Sir Alex Ferguson. It worked, securing the Premier League title in his first season at Old Trafford while also being the top scorer in the division. Verdict: Manchester United Alexis Sanchez-Henrikh Mkhitarayan swap deal | All you need to know around the big football transfer Danny Welbeck Manchester United: 2008-2014 (142 apps, 29 goals); Arsenal: 2014-present (91 apps, 22 goals) Left Manchester United for Arsenal in 2014 after a promising, though short of fulfilling, spell in the first-team, featuring 27 times in Manchester United's 2012-13 title-winning season. His time at the Emirates has been hampered by injury, while he has only featured four times for England in the last three seasons. Verdict: Manchester United
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 Crewe Alexandra manager David Artell Action Images/Craig Brough
FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 Crewe Alexandra manager David Artell Action Images/Craig Brough
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 Blackburn Rovers manager Tony Mowbray applauds the fans after the match Action Images/Craig Brough
FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 Blackburn Rovers manager Tony Mowbray applauds the fans after the match Action Images/Craig Brough
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 Crewe Alexandra's Chris Dagnall (C) goes close to scoring Action Images/Craig Brough
FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 Crewe Alexandra's Chris Dagnall (C) goes close to scoring Action Images/Craig Brough
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 Crewe Alexandra's Chris Dagnall looks dejected Action Images/Craig Brough
FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 Crewe Alexandra's Chris Dagnall looks dejected Action Images/Craig Brough
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 General view during the match Action Images/Craig Brough
FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 General view during the match Action Images/Craig Brough
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 Blackburn Rovers' Charlie Mulgrew (L) in action with Crewe Alexandra's Chris Dagnall Action Images/Craig Brough
FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 Blackburn Rovers' Charlie Mulgrew (L) in action with Crewe Alexandra's Chris Dagnall Action Images/Craig Brough
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 Crewe Alexandra's Ben Garratt looks dejected Action Images/Craig Brough
FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 Crewe Alexandra's Ben Garratt looks dejected Action Images/Craig Brough
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 Blackburn Rovers Manager Tony Mowbray Action Images/Craig Brough
FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 Blackburn Rovers Manager Tony Mowbray Action Images/Craig Brough
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 Crewe Alexandra's Tom Lowery (L) in action with Blackburn Rovers' Richard Smallwood Action Images/Craig Brough
FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 Crewe Alexandra's Tom Lowery (L) in action with Blackburn Rovers' Richard Smallwood Action Images/Craig Brough
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 Crewe Alexandra's Chris Dagnall in action with Blackburn Rovers' Derrick Williams Action Images/Craig Brough
FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 Crewe Alexandra's Chris Dagnall in action with Blackburn Rovers' Derrick Williams Action Images/Craig Brough
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 Blackburn Rovers' Danny Graham scores their first goal Action Images/Craig Brough
FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round Replay - Crewe Alexandra vs Blackburn Rovers - The Alexandra Stadium, Crewe, Britain - December 13, 2017 Blackburn Rovers' Danny Graham scores their first goal Action Images/Craig Brough
Former footballer Andy Woodward -- shown here in December 2016 -- revealed last year that he was abused by a convicted child molester at Crewe Alexandra
Former footballer Andy Woodward -- shown here in December 2016 -- revealed last year that he was abused by a convicted child molester at Crewe Alexandra
Former footballer Andy Woodward -- shown here in December 2016 -- revealed last year that he was abused by a convicted child molester at Crewe Alexandra
Former footballer Andy Woodward -- shown here in December 2016 -- revealed last year that he was abused by a convicted child molester at Crewe Alexandra (AFP Photo/PAUL ELLIS)
Former footballer Andy Woodward -- shown here in December 2016 -- revealed last year that he was abused by a convicted child molester at Crewe Alexandra
Former footballer Andy Woodward -- shown here in December 2016 -- revealed last year that he was abused by a convicted child molester at Crewe Alexandra (AFP Photo/PAUL ELLIS)
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 Wycombe Wanders' Craig Mackail-Smith celebrates scoring their second goal with team mates Action Images/Carl Recine
FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 Wycombe Wanders' Craig Mackail-Smith celebrates scoring their second goal with team mates Action Images/Carl Recine
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 Wycombe Wanders' Craig Mackail-Smith scores their second goal Action Images/Carl Recine
FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 Wycombe Wanders' Craig Mackail-Smith scores their second goal Action Images/Carl Recine
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 Blackburn manager Tony Mowbray Action Images/Carl Recine
FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 Blackburn manager Tony Mowbray Action Images/Carl Recine
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 Chris Porter (L) celebrates after he scores Crewe's third goal Action Images/Carl Recine
FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 Chris Porter (L) celebrates after he scores Crewe's third goal Action Images/Carl Recine
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 Chris Porter scores Crewe's third goal Action Images/Carl Recine
FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 Chris Porter scores Crewe's third goal Action Images/Carl Recine
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 Eddie Nolan scores Crewe's second goal Action Images/Carl Recine
FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 Eddie Nolan scores Crewe's second goal Action Images/Carl Recine
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 Eddie Nolan scores Crewe's second goal Action Images/Carl Recine
FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 Eddie Nolan scores Crewe's second goal Action Images/Carl Recine
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 Blackburn's Elliott Bennett is shown a red card Action Images/Carl Recine
FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 Blackburn's Elliott Bennett is shown a red card Action Images/Carl Recine
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 Blackburn's Elliott Bennett is shown a red card by referee David Webb Action Images/Carl Recine
FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 Blackburn's Elliott Bennett is shown a red card by referee David Webb Action Images/Carl Recine
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 General view of empty seats as Blackburn fans display a banner during the game Action Images/Carl Recine
FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 General view of empty seats as Blackburn fans display a banner during the game Action Images/Carl Recine
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 A fan with a inflatable in the crowd Action Images/Carl Recine
FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 A fan with a inflatable in the crowd Action Images/Carl Recine
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 A inflatable is held up in the crowd Action Images/Carl Recine
FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra
Soccer Football - FA Cup Second Round - Blackburn Rovers vs Crewe Alexandra - Ewood Park, Blackburn, Britain - December 3, 2017 A inflatable is held up in the crowd Action Images/Carl Recine

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