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FA Cup first round draw: Hyde United (eighth tier) host MK Dons

  7:28PM And that's the draw The excitement is over! No more balls will be drawn! Morecambe vs Hartlepool is pretty good, Doncaster will visit either East Thurrock or Ebsfleet. Hyde vs MK Dons is a brilliant tie for the minnows. I was really hoping for a Slough vs Swindon draw, purely for Office quotes.  7:25PM Eighth tier Hyde will play MK Dons! The crowd goes wild in the BBC studio as the draw is announced. That's the big club the players wanted. 7:24PM Lads, can we please have some music Or something. This draw is not one of the most exciting things I've ever seen on television. That Liverpool vs Man Utd game on Saturday was more entertaining. 7:21PM AFC Wimbledon vs Lincoln City AFC Wimbledon are one of the clubs to have benefited immensely from TV money brought by the FA Cup and they are drawn against Lincoln City.  7:19PM Some more fixtures for you Peterborough Utd v Tranmere Cambridge Utd v Sutton Utd Forest Green Rovers v Macclesfield Town AFC Fylde v Kidderminster Harriers Luton v Portsmouth Shrewsbury v Aldershot Hereford v AFC Telford Utd Guiseley v Accrington Stanley Blackburn Rovers v Barnet 7:16PM No huge match ups so far Bradford City v Chesterfield Port Vale v Oxford Utd Newport County v Walsall Morecambe v Hartlepool Utd 7:14PM And it's set of balls number eight And Lancelot is the FA Cup draw machine for tonight. What a hilarious National Lottery joke. And the first fixture is Stevenage vs Nantwich or Kettering. IT'S ALL KICKING OFF NOW, CLIVE. 7:12PM Your Davids, your Goliaths Hyde, Heybridge Swifts and Ossett Town are the lowest ranked teams in the competition, with all three occupying the eighth tier of English football.  7:10PM David Sharpe The Wigan chairman, grandson of Dave Whelan, fancies Wigan's chances this season. And now it's time for the draw!   7:05PM Who do the small teams want to get in the draw? According to a couple of Hyde football staff (manager and player), the management want to play against a team they can probably beat whereas the players want to draw Blackburn or Charlton - one of the 'big' clubs. Hyde actually own the record for biggest defeat in the FA Cup. A 26-0 hiding (see what I did) by Preston North End. 7:00PM The live coverage begins! Here we go. The draw is being held at Hyde United's ground. Look how cool their sun was earlier: Red sun today. FA Cup draw at Hyde United. Is that an omen. #EmiratesFACuppic.twitter.com/LoZ27mZjKW— Hyde United FC (@hydeunited) October 16, 2017   6:47PM The difference the FA Cup actually makes I wrote this in January about just how much an FA Cup run is worth to a small club. It turns out the answer is everything. The FA awards a prize of £1.8million to the winners of the competition, the kind of short-change a Champions League club might use as a sweetener for a promising youth prospect’s signing-on fee. For non-league side Curzon Ashton just qualifying for the second round of the competition will, and has, had an enormous impact.   Image     Landscape Portrait Square Original/Custom   Edit Selected Crop... Caption:   Description: curzon ashton Agency: GETTY IMAGES Artist:       Edit...   Delete     “It means so much to us a club,” says their CEO Natalie Atkinson. “The FA Cup is enabling us, through prize money, funds gained and TV money to work with the FA and football foundations to replace our 3G pitch next to the stadium.” Curzon Ashton, currently 15th in the National League North, lost 4-3 to AFC Wimbledon in December, conceding four goals in the final 10 minutes of the game. The prize for qualifying for the second round was £27,000, in addition to £18,000 earned from the first round. Those sucker-punch goals prevented a windfall of £67,500 for making it to third round. However, thanks to the wonder of television money, the club received more for their defeat to Wimbledon than they would have if they’d won a non-televised second round match. There's more on the article, if you fancy clicking on it. 6:30PM The magic of the cup This most holy of trophies always produces magical moments and even if a guilty few/most don't pay attention to the competition until their team is involved, those matches between minnows of the lower leagues and giants of... in this case, League One, are always thoroughly enjoyable.  Sutton are looking to make a lot more money from another (pie free) run at the cup this year, Accrington Stanley's involvement will be upping the YouTube view count on this milk advert, and today is the first time I have ever heard of Gainsborough Trinity. Perhaps they will become my new favourite non-league - maybe they'll be yours! It all depends who has to play who - and which of those games the people in charge at BBC decide to broadcast... 6:15PM Good evening! Hello there sports fans. Welcome to our live coverage of what is sure to be a riveting FA Cup first round draw. The action will kick-off at 7:10pm and we'll keep you up to date with the draw as it happens. For right now, that wait should give you time to look at all the nice photographs of that weird looking sun from earlier today. It was like being in Blade Runner. 6:09PM Preview What is it? It's the draw for the first round proper of the FA Cup: the oldest competition in world football.  The first round sees the 48 teams from League One and League Two joined by 32 non-league sides. When is it? Monday October 16. What time is it? The draw itself will begin at 7:10pm on Monday evening. The first round of the FA Cup will take place on Saturday November 4  Credit: AP  What TV channel is it on? The draw will be broadcast live on both BBC Two and BT Sport. Mark Chapman will present the BBC's coverage of the draw in half-hour long episode from 7pm, while BT Sport 3's show will also begin at 7pm.  When will the matches take place?  The first round will take place over the weekend of Friday November 3 to Monday 6 November 2017 Who's in the hat? Sutton United made it to the fifth round of the FA Cup last season  Credit: Getty Images  Three teams from the eighth tier of English football are among the non-league teams in the hat for the first round. Hyde United, who play in the Northern Premier League, beat Scarborough Athletic on Sunday afternoon to book their place in the competition.  Hampton and Richmond, who are coached by Sky Sports commentator Martin Tyler, failed in their bid to reach the FA Cup proper after losing to  National League South rivals Truro City. Truro's 2-0 victory over their league rivals means they become the first Cornwal team to reach the FA Cup first round since 1969.  Billericay Town, whose current players include Jamie O'Hara, Paul Konchesky and Jermaine Pennant, will also take their place in the draw.  FA Cup first round numbers 1 ACCRINGTON STANLEY 2 AFC WIMBLEDON 3 BARNET 4 BLACKBURN ROVERS 5 BLACKPOOL 6 BRADFORD CITY 7 BRISTOL ROVERS 8 BURY 9 CAMBRIDGE UNITED 10 CARLISLE UNITED 11 CHARLTON ATHLETIC 12 CHELTENHAM TOWN 13 CHESTERFIELD 14 COLCHESTER UNITED 15 COVENTRY CITY 16 CRAWLEY TOWN 17 CREWE ALEXANDRA 18 DONCASTER ROVERS 19 EXETER CITY 20 FLEETWOOD TOWN 21 FOREST GREEN ROVERS 22 GILLINGHAM 23 GRIMSBY TOWN 24 LINCOLN CITY 25 LUTON TOWN 26 MANSFIELD TOWN 27 MILTON KEYNES DONS 28 MORECAMBE 29 NEWPORT COUNTY 30 NORTHAMPTON TOWN 31 NOTTS COUNTY 32 OLDHAM ATHLETIC 33 OXFORD UNITED 34 PETERBOROUGH UNITED 35 PLYMOUTH ARGYLE 36 PORT VALE 37 PORTSMOUTH 38 ROCHDALE 39 ROTHERHAM UNITED 40 SCUNTHORPE UNITED 41 SHREWSBURY TOWN 42 SOUTHEND UNITED 43 STEVENAGE 44 SWINDON TOWN 45 WALSALL 46 WIGAN ATHLETIC 47 WYCOMBE WANDERERS 48 YEOVIL TOWN 49 TRANMERE ROVERS 50 SOLIHULL MOORS OR OSSETT TOWN 51 HARTLEPOOL UNITED 52 SHAW LANE ASSOCIATION 53 CHORLEY OR BOSTON UNITED 54 AFC TELFORD UNITED 55 GAINSBOROUGH TRINITY 56 NANTWICH TOWN OR KETTERING TOWN 57 GATESHEAD 58 GUISELEY 59 AFC FYLDE 60 KIDDERMINSTER HARRIERS 61 HYDE UNITED 62 MACCLESFIELD TOWN 63 BRACKLEY TOWN OR BILLERICAY TOWN 64 DAGENHAM & REDBRIDGE OR LEYTON ORIENT 65 HEREFORD 66 ALDERSHOT TOWN  67 BATH CITY OR CHELMSFORD CITY 68 OXFORD CITY 69 MAIDENHEAD UNITED 70 HEYBRIDGE SWIFTS 71 WOKING OR CONCORD RANGERS 72 TRURO CITY 73 DOVER ATHLETIC OR BROMLEY 74 SLOUGH TOWN 75 DARTFORD 76 BOREHAM WOOD 77 MAIDSTONE UNITED OR ENFIELD TOWN 78 LEATHERHEAD 79 SUTTON UNITED 80 EAST THURROCK UNITED OR EBBSFLEET UNITED

FA Cup first round draw: Hyde United (eighth tier) host MK Dons

  7:28PM And that's the draw The excitement is over! No more balls will be drawn! Morecambe vs Hartlepool is pretty good, Doncaster will visit either East Thurrock or Ebsfleet. Hyde vs MK Dons is a brilliant tie for the minnows. I was really hoping for a Slough vs Swindon draw, purely for Office quotes.  7:25PM Eighth tier Hyde will play MK Dons! The crowd goes wild in the BBC studio as the draw is announced. That's the big club the players wanted. 7:24PM Lads, can we please have some music Or something. This draw is not one of the most exciting things I've ever seen on television. That Liverpool vs Man Utd game on Saturday was more entertaining. 7:21PM AFC Wimbledon vs Lincoln City AFC Wimbledon are one of the clubs to have benefited immensely from TV money brought by the FA Cup and they are drawn against Lincoln City.  7:19PM Some more fixtures for you Peterborough Utd v Tranmere Cambridge Utd v Sutton Utd Forest Green Rovers v Macclesfield Town AFC Fylde v Kidderminster Harriers Luton v Portsmouth Shrewsbury v Aldershot Hereford v AFC Telford Utd Guiseley v Accrington Stanley Blackburn Rovers v Barnet 7:16PM No huge match ups so far Bradford City v Chesterfield Port Vale v Oxford Utd Newport County v Walsall Morecambe v Hartlepool Utd 7:14PM And it's set of balls number eight And Lancelot is the FA Cup draw machine for tonight. What a hilarious National Lottery joke. And the first fixture is Stevenage vs Nantwich or Kettering. IT'S ALL KICKING OFF NOW, CLIVE. 7:12PM Your Davids, your Goliaths Hyde, Heybridge Swifts and Ossett Town are the lowest ranked teams in the competition, with all three occupying the eighth tier of English football.  7:10PM David Sharpe The Wigan chairman, grandson of Dave Whelan, fancies Wigan's chances this season. And now it's time for the draw!   7:05PM Who do the small teams want to get in the draw? According to a couple of Hyde football staff (manager and player), the management want to play against a team they can probably beat whereas the players want to draw Blackburn or Charlton - one of the 'big' clubs. Hyde actually own the record for biggest defeat in the FA Cup. A 26-0 hiding (see what I did) by Preston North End. 7:00PM The live coverage begins! Here we go. The draw is being held at Hyde United's ground. Look how cool their sun was earlier: Red sun today. FA Cup draw at Hyde United. Is that an omen. #EmiratesFACuppic.twitter.com/LoZ27mZjKW— Hyde United FC (@hydeunited) October 16, 2017   6:47PM The difference the FA Cup actually makes I wrote this in January about just how much an FA Cup run is worth to a small club. It turns out the answer is everything. The FA awards a prize of £1.8million to the winners of the competition, the kind of short-change a Champions League club might use as a sweetener for a promising youth prospect’s signing-on fee. For non-league side Curzon Ashton just qualifying for the second round of the competition will, and has, had an enormous impact.   Image     Landscape Portrait Square Original/Custom   Edit Selected Crop... Caption:   Description: curzon ashton Agency: GETTY IMAGES Artist:       Edit...   Delete     “It means so much to us a club,” says their CEO Natalie Atkinson. “The FA Cup is enabling us, through prize money, funds gained and TV money to work with the FA and football foundations to replace our 3G pitch next to the stadium.” Curzon Ashton, currently 15th in the National League North, lost 4-3 to AFC Wimbledon in December, conceding four goals in the final 10 minutes of the game. The prize for qualifying for the second round was £27,000, in addition to £18,000 earned from the first round. Those sucker-punch goals prevented a windfall of £67,500 for making it to third round. However, thanks to the wonder of television money, the club received more for their defeat to Wimbledon than they would have if they’d won a non-televised second round match. There's more on the article, if you fancy clicking on it. 6:30PM The magic of the cup This most holy of trophies always produces magical moments and even if a guilty few/most don't pay attention to the competition until their team is involved, those matches between minnows of the lower leagues and giants of... in this case, League One, are always thoroughly enjoyable.  Sutton are looking to make a lot more money from another (pie free) run at the cup this year, Accrington Stanley's involvement will be upping the YouTube view count on this milk advert, and today is the first time I have ever heard of Gainsborough Trinity. Perhaps they will become my new favourite non-league - maybe they'll be yours! It all depends who has to play who - and which of those games the people in charge at BBC decide to broadcast... 6:15PM Good evening! Hello there sports fans. Welcome to our live coverage of what is sure to be a riveting FA Cup first round draw. The action will kick-off at 7:10pm and we'll keep you up to date with the draw as it happens. For right now, that wait should give you time to look at all the nice photographs of that weird looking sun from earlier today. It was like being in Blade Runner. 6:09PM Preview What is it? It's the draw for the first round proper of the FA Cup: the oldest competition in world football.  The first round sees the 48 teams from League One and League Two joined by 32 non-league sides. When is it? Monday October 16. What time is it? The draw itself will begin at 7:10pm on Monday evening. The first round of the FA Cup will take place on Saturday November 4  Credit: AP  What TV channel is it on? The draw will be broadcast live on both BBC Two and BT Sport. Mark Chapman will present the BBC's coverage of the draw in half-hour long episode from 7pm, while BT Sport 3's show will also begin at 7pm.  When will the matches take place?  The first round will take place over the weekend of Friday November 3 to Monday 6 November 2017 Who's in the hat? Sutton United made it to the fifth round of the FA Cup last season  Credit: Getty Images  Three teams from the eighth tier of English football are among the non-league teams in the hat for the first round. Hyde United, who play in the Northern Premier League, beat Scarborough Athletic on Sunday afternoon to book their place in the competition.  Hampton and Richmond, who are coached by Sky Sports commentator Martin Tyler, failed in their bid to reach the FA Cup proper after losing to  National League South rivals Truro City. Truro's 2-0 victory over their league rivals means they become the first Cornwal team to reach the FA Cup first round since 1969.  Billericay Town, whose current players include Jamie O'Hara, Paul Konchesky and Jermaine Pennant, will also take their place in the draw.  FA Cup first round numbers 1 ACCRINGTON STANLEY 2 AFC WIMBLEDON 3 BARNET 4 BLACKBURN ROVERS 5 BLACKPOOL 6 BRADFORD CITY 7 BRISTOL ROVERS 8 BURY 9 CAMBRIDGE UNITED 10 CARLISLE UNITED 11 CHARLTON ATHLETIC 12 CHELTENHAM TOWN 13 CHESTERFIELD 14 COLCHESTER UNITED 15 COVENTRY CITY 16 CRAWLEY TOWN 17 CREWE ALEXANDRA 18 DONCASTER ROVERS 19 EXETER CITY 20 FLEETWOOD TOWN 21 FOREST GREEN ROVERS 22 GILLINGHAM 23 GRIMSBY TOWN 24 LINCOLN CITY 25 LUTON TOWN 26 MANSFIELD TOWN 27 MILTON KEYNES DONS 28 MORECAMBE 29 NEWPORT COUNTY 30 NORTHAMPTON TOWN 31 NOTTS COUNTY 32 OLDHAM ATHLETIC 33 OXFORD UNITED 34 PETERBOROUGH UNITED 35 PLYMOUTH ARGYLE 36 PORT VALE 37 PORTSMOUTH 38 ROCHDALE 39 ROTHERHAM UNITED 40 SCUNTHORPE UNITED 41 SHREWSBURY TOWN 42 SOUTHEND UNITED 43 STEVENAGE 44 SWINDON TOWN 45 WALSALL 46 WIGAN ATHLETIC 47 WYCOMBE WANDERERS 48 YEOVIL TOWN 49 TRANMERE ROVERS 50 SOLIHULL MOORS OR OSSETT TOWN 51 HARTLEPOOL UNITED 52 SHAW LANE ASSOCIATION 53 CHORLEY OR BOSTON UNITED 54 AFC TELFORD UNITED 55 GAINSBOROUGH TRINITY 56 NANTWICH TOWN OR KETTERING TOWN 57 GATESHEAD 58 GUISELEY 59 AFC FYLDE 60 KIDDERMINSTER HARRIERS 61 HYDE UNITED 62 MACCLESFIELD TOWN 63 BRACKLEY TOWN OR BILLERICAY TOWN 64 DAGENHAM & REDBRIDGE OR LEYTON ORIENT 65 HEREFORD 66 ALDERSHOT TOWN  67 BATH CITY OR CHELMSFORD CITY 68 OXFORD CITY 69 MAIDENHEAD UNITED 70 HEYBRIDGE SWIFTS 71 WOKING OR CONCORD RANGERS 72 TRURO CITY 73 DOVER ATHLETIC OR BROMLEY 74 SLOUGH TOWN 75 DARTFORD 76 BOREHAM WOOD 77 MAIDSTONE UNITED OR ENFIELD TOWN 78 LEATHERHEAD 79 SUTTON UNITED 80 EAST THURROCK UNITED OR EBBSFLEET UNITED

FA Cup first round draw: Hyde United (eighth tier) host MK Dons

  7:28PM And that's the draw The excitement is over! No more balls will be drawn! Morecambe vs Hartlepool is pretty good, Doncaster will visit either East Thurrock or Ebsfleet. Hyde vs MK Dons is a brilliant tie for the minnows. I was really hoping for a Slough vs Swindon draw, purely for Office quotes.  7:25PM Eighth tier Hyde will play MK Dons! The crowd goes wild in the BBC studio as the draw is announced. That's the big club the players wanted. 7:24PM Lads, can we please have some music Or something. This draw is not one of the most exciting things I've ever seen on television. That Liverpool vs Man Utd game on Saturday was more entertaining. 7:21PM AFC Wimbledon vs Lincoln City AFC Wimbledon are one of the clubs to have benefited immensely from TV money brought by the FA Cup and they are drawn against Lincoln City.  7:19PM Some more fixtures for you Peterborough Utd v Tranmere Cambridge Utd v Sutton Utd Forest Green Rovers v Macclesfield Town AFC Fylde v Kidderminster Harriers Luton v Portsmouth Shrewsbury v Aldershot Hereford v AFC Telford Utd Guiseley v Accrington Stanley Blackburn Rovers v Barnet 7:16PM No huge match ups so far Bradford City v Chesterfield Port Vale v Oxford Utd Newport County v Walsall Morecambe v Hartlepool Utd 7:14PM And it's set of balls number eight And Lancelot is the FA Cup draw machine for tonight. What a hilarious National Lottery joke. And the first fixture is Stevenage vs Nantwich or Kettering. IT'S ALL KICKING OFF NOW, CLIVE. 7:12PM Your Davids, your Goliaths Hyde, Heybridge Swifts and Ossett Town are the lowest ranked teams in the competition, with all three occupying the eighth tier of English football.  7:10PM David Sharpe The Wigan chairman, grandson of Dave Whelan, fancies Wigan's chances this season. And now it's time for the draw!   7:05PM Who do the small teams want to get in the draw? According to a couple of Hyde football staff (manager and player), the management want to play against a team they can probably beat whereas the players want to draw Blackburn or Charlton - one of the 'big' clubs. Hyde actually own the record for biggest defeat in the FA Cup. A 26-0 hiding (see what I did) by Preston North End. 7:00PM The live coverage begins! Here we go. The draw is being held at Hyde United's ground. Look how cool their sun was earlier: Red sun today. FA Cup draw at Hyde United. Is that an omen. #EmiratesFACuppic.twitter.com/LoZ27mZjKW— Hyde United FC (@hydeunited) October 16, 2017   6:47PM The difference the FA Cup actually makes I wrote this in January about just how much an FA Cup run is worth to a small club. It turns out the answer is everything. The FA awards a prize of £1.8million to the winners of the competition, the kind of short-change a Champions League club might use as a sweetener for a promising youth prospect’s signing-on fee. For non-league side Curzon Ashton just qualifying for the second round of the competition will, and has, had an enormous impact.   Image     Landscape Portrait Square Original/Custom   Edit Selected Crop... Caption:   Description: curzon ashton Agency: GETTY IMAGES Artist:       Edit...   Delete     “It means so much to us a club,” says their CEO Natalie Atkinson. “The FA Cup is enabling us, through prize money, funds gained and TV money to work with the FA and football foundations to replace our 3G pitch next to the stadium.” Curzon Ashton, currently 15th in the National League North, lost 4-3 to AFC Wimbledon in December, conceding four goals in the final 10 minutes of the game. The prize for qualifying for the second round was £27,000, in addition to £18,000 earned from the first round. Those sucker-punch goals prevented a windfall of £67,500 for making it to third round. However, thanks to the wonder of television money, the club received more for their defeat to Wimbledon than they would have if they’d won a non-televised second round match. There's more on the article, if you fancy clicking on it. 6:30PM The magic of the cup This most holy of trophies always produces magical moments and even if a guilty few/most don't pay attention to the competition until their team is involved, those matches between minnows of the lower leagues and giants of... in this case, League One, are always thoroughly enjoyable.  Sutton are looking to make a lot more money from another (pie free) run at the cup this year, Accrington Stanley's involvement will be upping the YouTube view count on this milk advert, and today is the first time I have ever heard of Gainsborough Trinity. Perhaps they will become my new favourite non-league - maybe they'll be yours! It all depends who has to play who - and which of those games the people in charge at BBC decide to broadcast... 6:15PM Good evening! Hello there sports fans. Welcome to our live coverage of what is sure to be a riveting FA Cup first round draw. The action will kick-off at 7:10pm and we'll keep you up to date with the draw as it happens. For right now, that wait should give you time to look at all the nice photographs of that weird looking sun from earlier today. It was like being in Blade Runner. 6:09PM Preview What is it? It's the draw for the first round proper of the FA Cup: the oldest competition in world football.  The first round sees the 48 teams from League One and League Two joined by 32 non-league sides. When is it? Monday October 16. What time is it? The draw itself will begin at 7:10pm on Monday evening. The first round of the FA Cup will take place on Saturday November 4  Credit: AP  What TV channel is it on? The draw will be broadcast live on both BBC Two and BT Sport. Mark Chapman will present the BBC's coverage of the draw in half-hour long episode from 7pm, while BT Sport 3's show will also begin at 7pm.  When will the matches take place?  The first round will take place over the weekend of Friday November 3 to Monday 6 November 2017 Who's in the hat? Sutton United made it to the fifth round of the FA Cup last season  Credit: Getty Images  Three teams from the eighth tier of English football are among the non-league teams in the hat for the first round. Hyde United, who play in the Northern Premier League, beat Scarborough Athletic on Sunday afternoon to book their place in the competition.  Hampton and Richmond, who are coached by Sky Sports commentator Martin Tyler, failed in their bid to reach the FA Cup proper after losing to  National League South rivals Truro City. Truro's 2-0 victory over their league rivals means they become the first Cornwal team to reach the FA Cup first round since 1969.  Billericay Town, whose current players include Jamie O'Hara, Paul Konchesky and Jermaine Pennant, will also take their place in the draw.  FA Cup first round numbers 1 ACCRINGTON STANLEY 2 AFC WIMBLEDON 3 BARNET 4 BLACKBURN ROVERS 5 BLACKPOOL 6 BRADFORD CITY 7 BRISTOL ROVERS 8 BURY 9 CAMBRIDGE UNITED 10 CARLISLE UNITED 11 CHARLTON ATHLETIC 12 CHELTENHAM TOWN 13 CHESTERFIELD 14 COLCHESTER UNITED 15 COVENTRY CITY 16 CRAWLEY TOWN 17 CREWE ALEXANDRA 18 DONCASTER ROVERS 19 EXETER CITY 20 FLEETWOOD TOWN 21 FOREST GREEN ROVERS 22 GILLINGHAM 23 GRIMSBY TOWN 24 LINCOLN CITY 25 LUTON TOWN 26 MANSFIELD TOWN 27 MILTON KEYNES DONS 28 MORECAMBE 29 NEWPORT COUNTY 30 NORTHAMPTON TOWN 31 NOTTS COUNTY 32 OLDHAM ATHLETIC 33 OXFORD UNITED 34 PETERBOROUGH UNITED 35 PLYMOUTH ARGYLE 36 PORT VALE 37 PORTSMOUTH 38 ROCHDALE 39 ROTHERHAM UNITED 40 SCUNTHORPE UNITED 41 SHREWSBURY TOWN 42 SOUTHEND UNITED 43 STEVENAGE 44 SWINDON TOWN 45 WALSALL 46 WIGAN ATHLETIC 47 WYCOMBE WANDERERS 48 YEOVIL TOWN 49 TRANMERE ROVERS 50 SOLIHULL MOORS OR OSSETT TOWN 51 HARTLEPOOL UNITED 52 SHAW LANE ASSOCIATION 53 CHORLEY OR BOSTON UNITED 54 AFC TELFORD UNITED 55 GAINSBOROUGH TRINITY 56 NANTWICH TOWN OR KETTERING TOWN 57 GATESHEAD 58 GUISELEY 59 AFC FYLDE 60 KIDDERMINSTER HARRIERS 61 HYDE UNITED 62 MACCLESFIELD TOWN 63 BRACKLEY TOWN OR BILLERICAY TOWN 64 DAGENHAM & REDBRIDGE OR LEYTON ORIENT 65 HEREFORD 66 ALDERSHOT TOWN  67 BATH CITY OR CHELMSFORD CITY 68 OXFORD CITY 69 MAIDENHEAD UNITED 70 HEYBRIDGE SWIFTS 71 WOKING OR CONCORD RANGERS 72 TRURO CITY 73 DOVER ATHLETIC OR BROMLEY 74 SLOUGH TOWN 75 DARTFORD 76 BOREHAM WOOD 77 MAIDSTONE UNITED OR ENFIELD TOWN 78 LEATHERHEAD 79 SUTTON UNITED 80 EAST THURROCK UNITED OR EBBSFLEET UNITED

Martin Ling exclusive: I was worried my depression might scare people off so Leyton Orient really feels like a second chance

If Martin Ling had been given a pound every time someone asked him if it was wise, given his medical history, to go back to work at Leyton Orient, he would be close to paying off the club’s debt. Here was Ling, who had been obliged to leave his last two jobs in management after crippling bouts of depression, taking up the role of director of football at a club who have latterly redefined the term dysfunctional, a club mired in debt, decline and dispute.  You can understand the surprise at his accepting the role: he was taking on a job that appears guaranteed to induce stress. “Actually, I’m loving it,” he smiles, as he sits in his office in the Brisbane Road stadium. “I was worried my illness might scare people off. I knew another manager’s job was very unlikely. So this really does feel like a second chance. And I’m buzzing off it.” Ling resigned as manager of Swindon Town in 2015 after only 52 days. He left because, despite winning his first few games, he could feel the advancing tide of the depression which had overwhelmed him when he was in charge at Torquay two years previously. It was an episode which left him shattered, hospitalised and undergoing electro-convulsive treatment, an experience from which he took a long time to recover. “I don’t know if it was football that caused it,” he explains. “I can’t prove it was, but I can’t prove it wasn’t. I still take tablets, I still have counselling, I have to live with the fact I have depression. When it hits you, you think you’ve got it for life. But then, as suddenly as it arrives, it goes. And the fact is I feel brilliant today. I’ve felt brilliant for an awful lot of days in recent times.” Martin Ling Credit: Paul Grover What Ling did not want to do after he emerged from his darkness was hide away. An open, engaging, quick-witted presence, he has spent much of the past couple of years giving talks about the condition, he is always willing to have a coffee with someone who is suffering, always keen to widen general understanding of what it entails. And through it all he retained a keenness to get back to work in football, to tap into the experience he has gleaned over the years. So, when he got a call this summer to return to the club where he played and then managed with some success for six years, he did not hesitate. “If I could have picked a job that best suited my skills, this is it,” he says. “I don’t believe football management gave me depression, I think I would have got it in any walk of life. But I do believe football management is an all-encompassing, mind-never-sits-still, always-in-your-head type of job and I didn’t want to test it again. Looking back, what I enjoyed was the managing element of being a football manager more than the coaching bit. I like managing people. And in this role I’m managing more people.” It is a job, he quickly discovered, that entails a lot of managing. Orient had been driven to the very brink of insolvency under the previous ownership of Francesco Becchetti. In his three years in charge, the Italian oversaw the club sinking from the League One play-off final to losing their league status for the first time in 112 years. In the process, he employed 10 managers, failed to pay staff for months on end and drove the supporters to despair. When Becchetti moved on in June, his legacy was an operation stripped of cash, purpose and morale. “It was a massive car crash,” is Ling’s way of putting it. “And there’s still wreckage we’re coming across on a daily basis, in terms of trying to restore our credit rating, in terms of debts. The place was shot.” Ling managed Orient when they were promoted to League One in 2006 Credit: Paul Grover  To the rescue had come Nigel Travis, the chief executive of Dunkin’ Donuts and a lifelong Orient fan, who, after tortuous negotiation with Becchetti, bought the club with his business partner, Kent Teague. Travis is full of enthusiasm and ideas for the club, how he is going to market them as an alternative to the corporate Premier League, how he is going to communicate with fans digitally, how he will develop a presence in the United States, where he lives and works. But before all that, the new owner required someone he could trust to run the operation and install the kind of stability destroyed by Becchetti’s chaotic regime. The first person Travis thought of was the man whose picture adorns the back of the south stand at Brisbane Road, taken in celebration of the time he guided Orient to League One in 2006. “Martin has all the qualities we needed,” the new owner says, speaking on the phone from Texas. “I believe business is all about people, and Martin captures that. He is brilliant with people.” He needs to be. What Ling discovered when he arrived at the stadium was a ghostly shell of a club. “When I walked into this office on June 23, I had three staff members and nine players, the oldest one was 19. Everyone else had gone through the door,” he recalls. “We had no scouting network. We had no physio. Which meant we couldn’t train.” Plus, he had no first-team manager. He recruited Steve Davis, the former Crewe manager, to whom he gave a fundamental reassurance. “I know what it’s like to sit in Steve’s seat,” he says. “I know I’d have hated to have a director of football who was just sitting waiting to take my job, looking for something to go wrong. He knows I’m not interested in being manager, for very personal reasons.” Together, the pair recruited a squad, selling the new owners’ ambitions to them. Initially, there was, according to Ling, “a massive euphoria” among fans that the club were finally out of the hands of Becchetti; more season tickets were sold than in any time in 16 years. But the director of football knew it would take time for a team so hurriedly assembled to gel. He knew that supporters might have to experience a few defeats along the way, as they did against AFC Fylde at home last weekend and away to Tranmere Rovers last night. “Some of our supporters think, because they’ve not heard of these teams, we’re going to railroad them. But simply being Leyton Orient wins you nothing.  “Opposing teams come to this lovely stadium and it’s like a cup final for them. It’s something we’ve got to get used to. This is a tough league to get out of. There were a few boos on Saturday.  The best young players in world football “I don’t mind fans grumbling, they wouldn’t be football fans if they didn’t grumble. But one thing we’re not going to do is panic.” And, though he has no timetable for achieving it, though it might take longer than some supporters assume, Ling believes everything is now in place to bring back the kind of success he once delivered here. “People used to say about me when they heard I was ill, what have you got to be depressed about? I learned it doesn’t work like that. It’s a weird illness, I don’t know where it comes from and I don’t know where it goes,” he says. “But what I do know is, there is nowhere else I’d rather be than sat here now.”

Martin Ling exclusive: I was worried my depression might scare people off so Leyton Orient really feels like a second chance

If Martin Ling had been given a pound every time someone asked him if it was wise, given his medical history, to go back to work at Leyton Orient, he would be close to paying off the club’s debt. Here was Ling, who had been obliged to leave his last two jobs in management after crippling bouts of depression, taking up the role of director of football at a club who have latterly redefined the term dysfunctional, a club mired in debt, decline and dispute.  You can understand the surprise at his accepting the role: he was taking on a job that appears guaranteed to induce stress. “Actually, I’m loving it,” he smiles, as he sits in his office in the Brisbane Road stadium. “I was worried my illness might scare people off. I knew another manager’s job was very unlikely. So this really does feel like a second chance. And I’m buzzing off it.” Ling resigned as manager of Swindon Town in 2015 after only 52 days. He left because, despite winning his first few games, he could feel the advancing tide of the depression which had overwhelmed him when he was in charge at Torquay two years previously. It was an episode which left him shattered, hospitalised and undergoing electro-convulsive treatment, an experience from which he took a long time to recover. “I don’t know if it was football that caused it,” he explains. “I can’t prove it was, but I can’t prove it wasn’t. I still take tablets, I still have counselling, I have to live with the fact I have depression. When it hits you, you think you’ve got it for life. But then, as suddenly as it arrives, it goes. And the fact is I feel brilliant today. I’ve felt brilliant for an awful lot of days in recent times.” Martin Ling Credit: Paul Grover What Ling did not want to do after he emerged from his darkness was hide away. An open, engaging, quick-witted presence, he has spent much of the past couple of years giving talks about the condition, he is always willing to have a coffee with someone who is suffering, always keen to widen general understanding of what it entails. And through it all he retained a keenness to get back to work in football, to tap into the experience he has gleaned over the years. So, when he got a call this summer to return to the club where he played and then managed with some success for six years, he did not hesitate. “If I could have picked a job that best suited my skills, this is it,” he says. “I don’t believe football management gave me depression, I think I would have got it in any walk of life. But I do believe football management is an all-encompassing, mind-never-sits-still, always-in-your-head type of job and I didn’t want to test it again. Looking back, what I enjoyed was the managing element of being a football manager more than the coaching bit. I like managing people. And in this role I’m managing more people.” It is a job, he quickly discovered, that entails a lot of managing. Orient had been driven to the very brink of insolvency under the previous ownership of Francesco Becchetti. In his three years in charge, the Italian oversaw the club sinking from the League One play-off final to losing their league status for the first time in 112 years. In the process, he employed 10 managers, failed to pay staff for months on end and drove the supporters to despair. When Becchetti moved on in June, his legacy was an operation stripped of cash, purpose and morale. “It was a massive car crash,” is Ling’s way of putting it. “And there’s still wreckage we’re coming across on a daily basis, in terms of trying to restore our credit rating, in terms of debts. The place was shot.” Ling managed Orient when they were promoted to League One in 2006 Credit: Paul Grover  To the rescue had come Nigel Travis, the chief executive of Dunkin’ Donuts and a lifelong Orient fan, who, after tortuous negotiation with Becchetti, bought the club with his business partner, Kent Teague. Travis is full of enthusiasm and ideas for the club, how he is going to market them as an alternative to the corporate Premier League, how he is going to communicate with fans digitally, how he will develop a presence in the United States, where he lives and works. But before all that, the new owner required someone he could trust to run the operation and install the kind of stability destroyed by Becchetti’s chaotic regime. The first person Travis thought of was the man whose picture adorns the back of the south stand at Brisbane Road, taken in celebration of the time he guided Orient to League One in 2006. “Martin has all the qualities we needed,” the new owner says, speaking on the phone from Texas. “I believe business is all about people, and Martin captures that. He is brilliant with people.” He needs to be. What Ling discovered when he arrived at the stadium was a ghostly shell of a club. “When I walked into this office on June 23, I had three staff members and nine players, the oldest one was 19. Everyone else had gone through the door,” he recalls. “We had no scouting network. We had no physio. Which meant we couldn’t train.” Plus, he had no first-team manager. He recruited Steve Davis, the former Crewe manager, to whom he gave a fundamental reassurance. “I know what it’s like to sit in Steve’s seat,” he says. “I know I’d have hated to have a director of football who was just sitting waiting to take my job, looking for something to go wrong. He knows I’m not interested in being manager, for very personal reasons.” Together, the pair recruited a squad, selling the new owners’ ambitions to them. Initially, there was, according to Ling, “a massive euphoria” among fans that the club were finally out of the hands of Becchetti; more season tickets were sold than in any time in 16 years. But the director of football knew it would take time for a team so hurriedly assembled to gel. He knew that supporters might have to experience a few defeats along the way, as they did against AFC Fylde at home last weekend and away to Tranmere Rovers last night. “Some of our supporters think, because they’ve not heard of these teams, we’re going to railroad them. But simply being Leyton Orient wins you nothing.  “Opposing teams come to this lovely stadium and it’s like a cup final for them. It’s something we’ve got to get used to. This is a tough league to get out of. There were a few boos on Saturday.  The best young players in world football “I don’t mind fans grumbling, they wouldn’t be football fans if they didn’t grumble. But one thing we’re not going to do is panic.” And, though he has no timetable for achieving it, though it might take longer than some supporters assume, Ling believes everything is now in place to bring back the kind of success he once delivered here. “People used to say about me when they heard I was ill, what have you got to be depressed about? I learned it doesn’t work like that. It’s a weird illness, I don’t know where it comes from and I don’t know where it goes,” he says. “But what I do know is, there is nowhere else I’d rather be than sat here now.”

Martin Ling exclusive: I was worried my depression might scare people off so Leyton Orient really feels like a second chance

If Martin Ling had been given a pound every time someone asked him if it was wise, given his medical history, to go back to work at Leyton Orient, he would be close to paying off the club’s debt. Here was Ling, who had been obliged to leave his last two jobs in management after crippling bouts of depression, taking up the role of director of football at a club who have latterly redefined the term dysfunctional, a club mired in debt, decline and dispute.  You can understand the surprise at his accepting the role: he was taking on a job that appears guaranteed to induce stress. “Actually, I’m loving it,” he smiles, as he sits in his office in the Brisbane Road stadium. “I was worried my illness might scare people off. I knew another manager’s job was very unlikely. So this really does feel like a second chance. And I’m buzzing off it.” Ling resigned as manager of Swindon Town in 2015 after only 52 days. He left because, despite winning his first few games, he could feel the advancing tide of the depression which had overwhelmed him when he was in charge at Torquay two years previously. It was an episode which left him shattered, hospitalised and undergoing electro-convulsive treatment, an experience from which he took a long time to recover. “I don’t know if it was football that caused it,” he explains. “I can’t prove it was, but I can’t prove it wasn’t. I still take tablets, I still have counselling, I have to live with the fact I have depression. When it hits you, you think you’ve got it for life. But then, as suddenly as it arrives, it goes. And the fact is I feel brilliant today. I’ve felt brilliant for an awful lot of days in recent times.” Martin Ling Credit: Paul Grover What Ling did not want to do after he emerged from his darkness was hide away. An open, engaging, quick-witted presence, he has spent much of the past couple of years giving talks about the condition, he is always willing to have a coffee with someone who is suffering, always keen to widen general understanding of what it entails. And through it all he retained a keenness to get back to work in football, to tap into the experience he has gleaned over the years. So, when he got a call this summer to return to the club where he played and then managed with some success for six years, he did not hesitate. “If I could have picked a job that best suited my skills, this is it,” he says. “I don’t believe football management gave me depression, I think I would have got it in any walk of life. But I do believe football management is an all-encompassing, mind-never-sits-still, always-in-your-head type of job and I didn’t want to test it again. Looking back, what I enjoyed was the managing element of being a football manager more than the coaching bit. I like managing people. And in this role I’m managing more people.” It is a job, he quickly discovered, that entails a lot of managing. Orient had been driven to the very brink of insolvency under the previous ownership of Francesco Becchetti. In his three years in charge, the Italian oversaw the club sinking from the League One play-off final to losing their league status for the first time in 112 years. In the process, he employed 10 managers, failed to pay staff for months on end and drove the supporters to despair. When Becchetti moved on in June, his legacy was an operation stripped of cash, purpose and morale. “It was a massive car crash,” is Ling’s way of putting it. “And there’s still wreckage we’re coming across on a daily basis, in terms of trying to restore our credit rating, in terms of debts. The place was shot.” Ling managed Orient when they were promoted to League One in 2006 Credit: Paul Grover  To the rescue had come Nigel Travis, the chief executive of Dunkin’ Donuts and a lifelong Orient fan, who, after tortuous negotiation with Becchetti, bought the club with his business partner, Kent Teague. Travis is full of enthusiasm and ideas for the club, how he is going to market them as an alternative to the corporate Premier League, how he is going to communicate with fans digitally, how he will develop a presence in the United States, where he lives and works. But before all that, the new owner required someone he could trust to run the operation and install the kind of stability destroyed by Becchetti’s chaotic regime. The first person Travis thought of was the man whose picture adorns the back of the south stand at Brisbane Road, taken in celebration of the time he guided Orient to League One in 2006. “Martin has all the qualities we needed,” the new owner says, speaking on the phone from Texas. “I believe business is all about people, and Martin captures that. He is brilliant with people.” He needs to be. What Ling discovered when he arrived at the stadium was a ghostly shell of a club. “When I walked into this office on June 23, I had three staff members and nine players, the oldest one was 19. Everyone else had gone through the door,” he recalls. “We had no scouting network. We had no physio. Which meant we couldn’t train.” Plus, he had no first-team manager. He recruited Steve Davis, the former Crewe manager, to whom he gave a fundamental reassurance. “I know what it’s like to sit in Steve’s seat,” he says. “I know I’d have hated to have a director of football who was just sitting waiting to take my job, looking for something to go wrong. He knows I’m not interested in being manager, for very personal reasons.” Together, the pair recruited a squad, selling the new owners’ ambitions to them. Initially, there was, according to Ling, “a massive euphoria” among fans that the club were finally out of the hands of Becchetti; more season tickets were sold than in any time in 16 years. But the director of football knew it would take time for a team so hurriedly assembled to gel. He knew that supporters might have to experience a few defeats along the way, as they did against AFC Fylde at home last weekend and away to Tranmere Rovers last night. “Some of our supporters think, because they’ve not heard of these teams, we’re going to railroad them. But simply being Leyton Orient wins you nothing.  “Opposing teams come to this lovely stadium and it’s like a cup final for them. It’s something we’ve got to get used to. This is a tough league to get out of. There were a few boos on Saturday.  The best young players in world football “I don’t mind fans grumbling, they wouldn’t be football fans if they didn’t grumble. But one thing we’re not going to do is panic.” And, though he has no timetable for achieving it, though it might take longer than some supporters assume, Ling believes everything is now in place to bring back the kind of success he once delivered here. “People used to say about me when they heard I was ill, what have you got to be depressed about? I learned it doesn’t work like that. It’s a weird illness, I don’t know where it comes from and I don’t know where it goes,” he says. “But what I do know is, there is nowhere else I’d rather be than sat here now.”

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United 4 Crystal Palace 0: Marouane Fellaini hits brace as rampant United hit four again

Still without a goal, let alone a point, and never looking close to claiming either at Old Trafford, the worrying thing for Crystal Palace is their predicament could get a lot worse before it gets any better. Chelsea are their next opponents, and while the international break might give manager Roy Hodgson some welcome pause for thought, Palace will have no hope against the Premier League champions if they prove as anaemic as they were here against a completely dominant Manchester United. It was boys against men, very large, very hungry ones. Wayne Hennessey might have hoped he would deny Jose Mourinho’s rampant side from running up their sixth four-goal haul in 11 matches when he made an excellent save to frustrate substitute Anthony Martial ten minutes from time. But the Palace goalkeeper’s net was breached for a fourth time soon after when Belgium striker Romelu Lukaku converted Martial’s cross for his 15th goal in 12 matches for club and country this season. It added some extra gloss to the scoreline after two goals from the towering Marouane Fellaini, following Juan Mata’s early opener, which had put United firmly on course for their sixth win in seven league games. For now, Palace will just be thankful they do not have to return to Manchester in the competition again this term, having been thumped 5-0 by City a week earlier, although whether they will be back here next season is hard to say. Yes, Palace were severely weakened, with Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Scott Dann and Ruben Loftus-Cheek among the absentees, but even with them Hodgson will have his work cut out. “At the moment, we fear we’re the boxer who is fighting in the wrong weight class he is not able to handle,” the Palace manager said. “We are going to take the blows to the chin and get knocked down but I don’t think we stayed on the canvas, I think we tried to get back up. Juan Mata scored early on  Credit: Reuters “These two [United and City] are getting good results against almost everyone they play against so if we can keep the players positive and stop them doubting themselves too much, you never know, we could look back on this terrible patch at the end of the season and say it helped us build the character to stay in the league.” Palace did not even given themselves a chance. With confidence so low, it was imperative they at least got a foothold in the game but all that work on the training ground this week was undone inside two and a half minutes when Mata claimed another early United goal. Palace are not exactly on the small side but they could not live with United’s sheer physicality. Don’t get me wrong, United were the team playing the football, but it must be deflating for rugged opponents such as Palace that they are not just at a serious technical and mental disadvantage here but a physical one, too. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal United’s second and third goals, both scored by Fellaini, derived from excellent balls swung into Palace’s penalty area where a mob of man-mountains were waiting to gorge themselves. But it was the same story at the opposite end of the pitch when United had to defend the odd corner. Lining up to head the ball clear were Fellaini, Nemanja Matic, Chris Smalling, Romelu Lukaku and Phil Jones, imposing figures all. Mamadou Sakho did win one of those duels, heading over from six yards out, but United barely give an inch in those aerial battles. Bullied this side will not be. Marcus Rashford tustles with Joel Ward Credit: Getty images They can play, too. Just ask Joel Ward. The Palace right back was turned inside out by Marcus Rashford in the lead up to United’s opening goal, the England striker skipping away to the left by-line before passing to Mata to score. It looked a long way back for Palace at that moment and so it would prove. Jose Mourinho confirmed on Friday that Paul Pogba’s injury was “long-term” but Fellaini is revelling in the Frenchman’s absence. The Belgian and Matic dominated Palace’s five-man midfield and, behind them, Jones exuded authority and composure in defence. Fellaini celebrates his second Credit: Reuters Fellaini is not always the easiest on the eye but he is very effective. He also likes getting on the end of crosses from Ashley Young, who is starting to make the left back slot his own. Young’s ball for Fellaini’s first goal was a peach, whipping a cross to the far post where Fellaini steered home a controlled volley to make it 2-0. Game over? It most certainly was when United got their third, winning a free-kick on the left edge of Palace’s penalty box. Rashford stepped up and swung in a venomous ball straight on to the head of Fellaini to score. “Marouane is a fighter, a guy with lots of pride and I am really pleased I have helped him to reach this level and change the perception the fans have now,” Mourinho said. “He is a strong character who resisted the difficulties here.” Palace were a lost cause. Bakary Sako had momentarily stung David De Gea’s hands but that was about it. This was a mismatch in every department. 4:58PM More of the same Another 4-0 win for Manchester United, their fourth of the season already and the sixth time they've scored four in a game, and this was every bit as comfortable and easy as the scoreline suggested. Palace, without a win or a goal in six games prior to this, were forced to start without a recognised striker and ended up being swept aside by Jose Mourinho's side without them ever really getting out of third gear. Two for Marouane Fellaini of all people tells its own story, Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata slightly more predictable goalscorers, Martial and Lukaku could have made it more convincing still. On this evidence, and with the fixtures coming up, it's hard to see where the form of either of these two teams is going to change any time soon. Easy day at the office.   4:50PM Time on ball (at full time) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:50PM Average touch positions (full time) Average touch positions (full time) 4:50PM Full Time Man Utd 4 Palace 0 Everything we thought it might be and more. 4:48PM 90 mins Three minutes of stoppage time seems unnecessarily cruel. 4:48PM 88 mins It's the Palace fans you can hear, but it's United doing all the attacking. They hunt a fifth from a free kick after a foul on Martial but Hennessey catches the delivery at the far stick. 4:44PM GOAL!!!!! MAN UTD 4 Palace 0 There it is. Lukaku gets his goal and covers the spread. The Belgian flicks on an initial long ball then advances into the area to receive the return pass from Martial and side-foot into the net from six yards out with absolutely no Palace player anywhere near him. Lukaku belatedly makes it eight consecutive scoring appearances for club and country. 4:43PM GOAL! A goal from Romelu Lukaku for Man Utd makes the score 4-0. Man Utd 4 - 0 Crystal Palace (Romelu Lukaku, 86 min) 4:40PM 80 mins Martial's turn to go close. Tremendous through ball from Herrera gives Martial a clear sight of goal in the right channel. Credit Wayne Hennessey for a great save. Fellaini is sniffing a hat trick as the corner drops his way but Palace muscle up and survive. 4:36PM 77 mins A foul by Fellaini gives Townsend a chance to send a cross-shot right the way through the six-yard-box and wide with de Gea covering it comfortably enough. 4:34PM 75 mins Mata, excellent first half, quiet second, heading for the baths. Ander Herrera on his way to join us. 4:34PM 74 mins Swing and a miss One of Palace's subs, Riedewald, just found the ball flying right at him in the centre of the Unied penalty box but his attempted first time volley - completely fluffed - rather betrays a centre back playing in midfield. 4:33PM Time on ball (60 - 75 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:33PM 73 mins Sako's long, tiring, thankless, fruitless afternoon is over. Here come's Margate's Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Four goals in ten starts and five sub appearances on loan at Shrewsbury, three goals in 15 starts and three sub appearances in a similar stint at Oldham last season. 4:30PM 71 mins Martial immediately going at Ward, who's suffered enough this afternoon, and crosses for Lukaku but Delaney gets there before him. 4:30PM 70 mins Not quite sure how it's not 4-0 but it's not. Lingard fouled on the edge of the box but Dean plays a great advantage for Lukaku to run clear in the area, sit Hennessey down and then very surprisingly side-foot wide of the post with the goal gaping. Rashford is replaced by Martial, whose arrival was delayed while he took all his jewelry off. Killing various fantasy teams this afternoon.   4:28PM It's been a mismatch at Old Trafford so far Man Utd are dominating this game, firing in a total of 15 shots compared to six from Crystal Palace so far. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 4:28PM 69 mins Palace chance United seem to have but the cue on the rack, though they are about to bring on Martial. Ward crosses for Sako to hit a first time volley over. 4:26PM 67 mins Cabaye lashes one over from 25 yards. Here comes James McArthur for Jeffrey Schlupp. That'll do it. Puncheon also going off, Riedewald (a centre half) coming on. 4:24PM 65 mins Mkhitaryan off Mkhitaryan going off for Lingard. He's been pretty anonymous here against limited opposition. Personally think it's a shame Lingard doesn't get more game time but he's got 25 minutes to fill his boots here. 4:23PM 63 mins Rashford injury A trailing arm from Sakho as he goes down in the tackle catches Rashford in his gentleman's area. Palace have a corner in more remarkable news. Caption competition. 4:21PM 62 mins Delaney robbed by Lukaku, tries to set up Rashford, Delaney gets back and recovers. 4:20PM 59 mins A quite bizarre passage of play here with Sako receiving the ball on the corner of the penalty box, stopping, looking up for a target to cross to only to realise it's meant to be him, and then just sort of standing there while first van Aarnholt, then Townsend, try and make space and United just sort of stand and watch him. Eventually, after what seemed like an age, United win the ball back. Hodgson is readying 24-year-old Freddie Ladapo for a Premier League debut. Career to date: East Thurrock (the best of all the Thurrocks), Colchester, Woking, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Margate, Oldham and Shrewsbury. 4:17PM Time on ball (45 - 60 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 4:14PM 55 mins Goodness I thought Palace were going to score there. Well, not really, but still Schlupp tries a diving header from 12 yards out, dead centre, from a Sako cross but it's nowhere near. 4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

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Betfair: Manchester United to beat Crystal Palace at 18/1   4:09PM 50 mins Roy Hodgson watch - he's now slumped in the front row of the dug out, peering over the top of the wall, rubbing his eyes and shaking his head.  4:08PM 49 mins Schlupp optimistically appeals for a penalty under minimal contact from Smalling at the Stretford End. Plan D? 4:06PM GOAL!!! MAN UTD 3 Palace 0 Oh Palace. The most inevitable goal in the history of football. Only a brave block from Ward stops a defensive calamity leading to a goal for Rashford but with the back line still absolutely all over the show a free kick is conceded and Fellaini gets his second of the game, heading home Rashford's set piece unmarked. Great delivery, but you'll never see an easier goal scored. Simple as that. 4:06PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has put Man Utd into a commanding 3-0 lead. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 49 min) 4:04PM 46 mins  Meet the second half, same as the first half. Rashford straight away toasting Ward for pace as he's done all afternoon and crossing for Lukaku but his shot is deflected behind for a corner. That's cleared. 4:02PM Second half Palace jogging back out now. Man Utd ambling behind them. Second half about to begin. 4:00PM Failure to prepare Mike Dean, giving his penalty awarding finger a stretch just in case. 3:59PM Bleaker Honestly, it's difficult to see exactly where this is going to end for Palace. Where the win is coming from. Where the goal is coming from. Where hope is coming from. It's not just an unusually cruel run of fixtures that has them against Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea at exactly the wrong time. With Benteke injured medium term, you just don't know how they're even going to trouble the league's lesser lights. I can't fault Sako's first half efforts as a lone striker here, he's a game boy, but it's not his position, and Ray Lewington is on the touchline talking him through the game play by play, telling him where to go, where to stand and what to do like he's got him under remote control. I usually cover myself after musings like this by saying "probably win 3-2 now I've said that" but, seriously, at the moment, they're more likely to fly to the moon on the team bus. Had better days. 3:50PM Half Time Man Utd 2 Palace 0 Only another 45 minutes to endure for those of a South London persuasion. Palace have had their moments, even forcing a sort-of save from an opposing goalkeeper when Sako 'tested' de Gea at his near post, but they're now without a league goal in six and a half games this season and well on their way to a seventh straight defeat. Mata, who has been sublime, scored after two minutes with the equally brilliant Rashford claiming an assist. You'll struggle to find a better cross than Ashley Young's for the second goal, scored during Palace's best spell in the game by Fellaini from close range. Drinks now while we discuss when United might declare and put the tourists into bat. Shelling peas. 3:47PM 45 mins Marouane Fellaini doing ball juggling tricks in open play is probably as good a place as any to call it a day and in a minute's time we'll be doing exactly that. 3:47PM Time on ball (first half) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:46PM Average touch positions (half time) Average touch positions (half time) 3:45PM 42 mins Rashford strikes the post United swarming all over Palace now. Rashford is the spare man at the back post as Lukaku moves Mata's cross on one more. He takes a touch, time enough to do a decent oil painting of the chance, drives it near post and strikes the metalwork.  3:43PM 40 mins Rashford and Mata particularly enjoying this, both having excellent games. Palace's attempts to play out form the back end up with Andros Townsend passing the ball straight out behind the goal for a corner. Smalling powers a back post header wide from the resulting delivery. Rashford running the show. 3:40PM 37 mins It looks like Juan Mata is about to go clean through on goal before Lukaku inadvertently flicks the pass out of the path of his team mate. 3:36PM GOAL!!!! MAN UTD 2 Palace 0 Well that'll learn me. United deliver a sucker punch just as their visitors seem to be getting a foothold in the game. A move which involved a cheeky pass off the top of his shoulder by Marcus Rashford ends with a goal for Marouane Fellaini, volleying in Ashley Young's brilliant cross at the back post. A sizzling three-yarder. 3:35PM GOAL! Marouane Fellaini has doubled Man Utd's lead - it's now 2-0. Man Utd 2 - 0 Crystal Palace (Marouane Fellaini, 35 min) 3:34PM 31 mins Palace shot Actual shot. Sako, 15 yards out, difficult angle, de Gea beats the ball away at the near post. Unlikely to score from there but the Eagles are steadily working their way back into this. They've had much the better of the last five minutes or so. 3:33PM 30 mins Good work from Andros Townsend down the right wins another corner with a back post cross that Valencia heads behind. Good spell for Palace this, can they make this set piece count? No. Fellaini, unchallenged, bullets the Cabaye cross away. 3:31PM 28 mins Sako hasn't started any of Palace's last 47 league games but he's a game runner and he's worried another corner out of Smalling here. Given the balance of play, they have to make these set pieces count, but again Cabaye's delivery is headed away and then Sako is offside as it comes back in. Waste. 3:31PM Time on ball (15 - 30 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:30PM 27 mins  Jason Puncheon, four yellows already this season, penalised for deliberate handball wide on the left touchline. Mata to take the free kick... Hennessey claims pretty easily. 3:28PM 24 mins Palace attack Best moment of the game so far for the visitors. Matic gets caught in possession, play is worked up to Sako on the edge of the area who tried to play Cabaye through, but it's cleared behind for a corner. That's headed straight back behind so they'll get a second go from the other side... Smalling heads away. 3:26PM 23 mins Roy has wibbled his way down to the touchline himself, surveying the situation finger to his lips. United not overly impressed with Damien Delaney's aggressive handling of Fellaini under their corners, but nothing doing from Mike Dean at the moment. Plan C? 3:24PM 21 mins Bit of a slack pass out from the back looking for Valencia is, briefly, gloriously, intercepted by Schlupp on the halfway line. Valencia, however, wins it straight back and United come forward again, winning a corner off a slack touch by Andros Townsend. Townsend gets a receipt with that one. 3:20PM 15 mins The basic pattern of this game is very much like an ice hockey power play situation. Palace are very deep, and very narrow. United are setting up with width and numbers all around the penalty box and working the ball and players in all directions looking for an opening. Palace cannot get out, and in the brief, fleeting moments they do have the ball it's punted up to Sako, who's completely isolated, and not a striker, and not looking much of a bet as a point man in this game. Ray Lewington, Palace's assistant manager, couldn't be any closer to the action without being on the pitch and his barked instructions are all you can hear over a typically subdued Old Trafford atmosphere. Cue Palace equaliser... I'll claim an assist. Plan B? 3:16PM Man Utd enjoying plenty of touches of the ball so far. Man Utd have had 170 touches of the ball compared to 80 by Crystal Palace. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:15PM Time on ball (0 - 15 min) Possession: Man Utd vs Crystal Palace 3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes. 3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

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Betfair: Manchester United to beat Crystal Palace at 18/1   3:13PM 11 mins A nervous moment for David de Gea who is hurried into a rushed clearance by Sako, the ball goes straight to Puncheon but his cross is cut out. 3:12PM 10 mins Flowing move from United, sweeping right through the middle of Palace, Matic shoots over. Rashford is giving Ward a torrid time down the Palace right in these early stages. 3:11PM 8 mins Half a penalty appeal Fellaini hits the deck in a crowded penalty area but our referee this afternoon says no. Safe to say if penalty enthusiast Mike Dean doesn't think it's a spot kick it almost certainly isn't. United attack again immediately, Rashford seeing a cross cut out at the near post this time. 3:09PM 7 mins Palace chance Set pieces could offer one way back into this - United struggled with Stoke's dead balls earlier this month. Joel Ward overlapping down the right wing is fouled, Cabaye swings over the free kick, Sakho up from the back heads over. Decent chance. 3:07PM Crystal Palace have their first sight of goal Crystal Palace respond to the earlier Man Utd effort with their first shot of the game. Man Utd vs Crystal Palace shots on goal 3:07PM 5 mins Difficult to really know what the Palace plan is now. United continuing to dominate the ball, already 1-0 up, visitors struggling to get a foot on the ball at all. As Townsend does win the ball back briefly, Ashley Young snaps in and takes it back off him. 3:05PM GOAL! MAN UTD 1 Palace 0 Took two minutes. Rashford skinning his man wide on the left, cut it back looking for Lukaku but it's actually Juan Mata stealing in behind him to slam in the first goal of the afternoon. Juan Mata opens the scoring after two minutes.   3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

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Betfair: Manchester United to beat Crystal Palace at 18/1   3:03PM 2 mins Man Utd enjoying all of the early possession, Palace do almost free Puncheon into the left channel with their first attack. 3:03PM GOAL! 1-0! Juan Mata strikes to give Man Utd the early lead. Man Utd 1 - 0 Crystal Palace (Juan Mata, 3 min) 3:00PM 15.00 Teams out Usual round of hand shakes before they all start trying to con penalties and free kicks out of each other and then we'll be underway.  2:47PM Kick off approaching Crawling towards our 15.00 start time. Players out there warming up.  Bets of luck lads. Romelu Lukaku going through his paces/the motions. 2:34PM Bleak Roy Hodgson is 70 years old. You really have to wonder whether he needs to be doing this to himself. Six defeats from six games, Man Utd away today, Chelsea the other side of the international break, only striker injured... The former England manager has walked into a club that has suffered from muddled thinking, failure to learn from previous mistakes, and perhaps a deal of arrogance as well. Much was made of Alan Pards Pardew's more attractive, expansive style of play (Newcastle fans must have missed that one) when he was brought in after the more pragmatic approach of Tony Pulis had kept Palace up against the odds. When that started to fail, there was all the usual talk of "back to basics" when Big Sam Allardicci was summoned to rescue the situation. All fine. Except they then went for Frank De Boer and starting giving it the old "attractive, expansive style" chat again. And having done so, they then deemed four matches sufficient time for De Boer to turn a Sam Allardyce team into a Dutch-style, total footballing, passing machine.  I mean, when you go back through the Palace managers of the last 30 years there are 24 permanent ones, 22 Englishmen and two Scots (one very brief ill-fated spell for Atillo Lombardo not included), two Neil Warnocks, four Steve Coppells, two Alan Smiths, Dave Bassett, Iain Dowie, Allardyce, Pulis, Ian Holloway... It really is impossible to believe that De Boer wasn't able to get them playing like Ajax inside three months. This is already looking like a long old season. Selection headache. 2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. Got this. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down. 1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Manchester United vs Crystal Palace: Team news and live score updates

Betfair: Manchester United to beat Crystal Palace at 18/1   2:22PM No rest for Lukaku, well not this week... Much of United's early season dominance has been based on the form of Romelu Lukaku who has 14 goals in 11 appearances for club and country already since a £75m move from Everton in the summer.  Only Leicester have kept the Belgian scoreless so far this season but with Paul Pogba out until November, Marcus Rashford covering elsewhere and a return for Zlatan Ibrahimovic still some way off there's been no temptation for Mourinho to rest his main hitman. There is, however, a chance for Belgium to leave him out of their forthcoming qualifiers given that they've already booked their place in Russia next summer. Not that Mourinho would lean on Roberto Martinez to do that at all, of course. “Look, without Zlatan, we cannot rotate the striker, especially because Marcus Rashford is playing also in other positions. So until the moment we have Zlatan we cannot think about giving rest to our No 9, the same way we give in other positions. We cannot do that. Belgium is Roberto’s responsibility and it’s his decision to play him or not to play him. I cannot, professionally speaking, say, ‘Do this or do that’.” But, you know, do that if you want. 2:07PM Palace team Crystal Palace have responded to this afternoon's challenge, and the injury to Christian Benteke, and the failure to land the mighty Carlton Cole on a short-term deal, by collecting up all the wingers the club has fielded over the past five seasons and picking them all at once in the same team. Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Sakho, Delaney, Van Aanholt; Milivojevic, Cabaye; Schlupp, Puncheon, Townsend; Sako. Subs: Speroni, Kelly, Riedewald, McArthur, Mutch, Lee, Ladapo. 2:04PM Martial on the bench Manchester United will line up like this. Palace fans look away now... Man Utd: De Gea; Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young; Matic, Fellaini; Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rashford; Lukaku Subs: Romero, Bailly, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Lingard, Martial Anthony Martial, ready for a big afternoon of sitting down.   1:53PM Hello, good afternoon, and welcome... ...to our live coverage of Manchester United's exciting 4-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace. Both these teams have been in ominous form this season. United have five wins and a draw from their six matches, scoring 17 goals and conceding just two. They've won 4-0 on three occasions and 4-1 twice in all competitions already and come into this game on the back of five straight wins: 3-0, 4-0, 4-1, 1-0, 4-1. Palace, meanwhile, will soon be troubling Premier League records set by 1993/94 Swindon Town, 2012/13 Queens Park Rangers, and about half a dozen Sunderland teams. They are played six, lost six, scored non, conceded 13 in the league and are back in Manchester just seven days after a 5-0 walloping at City. You can get 18s on them winning here and, frankly, if they do, I'll give you the money myself. We'll have team news for you around 14.00. 1:36PM Preview What is it? It's another Premier League game between Jose Mourinho's Manchester United and Roy Hodgson's (this really happened) Crystal Palace. Second vs bottom!  When is it? The game takes place on Saturday the 30th September at Old Trafford. What time is kick-off? An unusually traditional 3pm for Man Utd. What TV channel is it on? Nowhere in the UK unfortunately, what with it being a 3pm kick-off, but various broadcasters around the world will be showing it in venues and on screens away from these shores. Romelu Lukaku scored twice in United's 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow on Wednesday Credit: REUTERS What is the team news, who is injured and suspended? Man Utd's injury list got a little bit longer in their midweek win over CSKA Moscow as Anthony Martial was taken off with a slight thigh injury. He is a doubt for the visit of the Eagles (not the band) and joins Marouane Fellaini, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paul Pogba, Marcos Rojo, Michael Carrick and Phil Jones as a likely absentee.  Antonio Valencia didn't travel to Russia with the rest of the squad but should return for this match. This all means that the most likely lineup will be a 4-2-3-1 with Marcus Rashford taking Anthony Martial's left-forward role after picking up that knock in Moscow. Ander Herrera will probably start alongside Nemanja Matic, while Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan join Romelu Lukaku in attack.  Mourinho must decide who plays at left-back and can choose from either Daley Blind or Ashley  Young, who came off early in the midweek game, which might indicate that he is first choice. Man Utd XI vs Crystal Palace Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke and Connor Wickham are all injured for Palace while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a doubt. Timothy Fosu-Mensah isn't allowed to play because he's on loan for United. Hodgson has a dilemma on his hands as Palace might go into this game without a recognised striker - they've genuinely been linked with Carlton Cole as a potential short-term option. Imagine you were a youth team striker at Palace and heard they were going to sign Carlton Cole instead of giving you a chance? Livid. Anyway, they don't have any strikers. Crystal Palace XI vs Man Utd What are they saying? Jose Mourinho speaking after the 4-1 win over CSKA Moscow: Jose Mourinho applauds fans after victory in Russia  Credit: EPA “[Romelu Lukaku is] having a great record. We know that he’s a very good player, he can score lots of goals and playing in a team surrounded by quality players, [it is] even easier to do that. But I have to admit that he’s scoring really important goals and almost every game. For me, the important thing is not [how much he cost] but the important thing is two matches, six points and a good position in the Champions League. Four more matches to play but we start really strongly and we are almost there.” “I didn’t see that [PlayStation football] as much, just a little bit of relaxation, a reaction by the home team with the normal pride to try to score, to try to have a different result and we just relaxed a little bit. We had a couple of good chances but I think it’s normal. We have a game on Saturday. Liverpool are luckier than us, they play Tuesday and Sunday, we have to play on Wednesday and on Saturday at 3pm. So I think it’s normal, a little bit of relaxation.” Roy Hodgson: Hodgson is yet to conduct his pre-match interview but told Sky Sports upon news of his appointment that he was looking for passion from his players: "What I always look for in every game is character, I am looking for desire and people who share your passion and enthusiasm," he said.  "You are also looking for people who at least give the impression they are trying to do what the team wants them to do. "At the moment, I think we have a lot of work to do for me to feel fully confident that every player fully understands with his role what I am looking for and what I would like him to do. "I want to see a team that shows the fans that they really care." What does the table look like?  What are the odds? Man Utd to win 1/6 Crystal Palace to win 14/1 Draw 6/1 Best-priced accumulators | New customer offers What's our prediction? Crystal Palace have been woeful so far, are missing key players and there's no way Man Utd will take their foot off the gas at Old Trafford. After some tough defending by Hodgson's team, they'll concede a silly header from a set piece late in the first half and go on to lose by a few more. Man Utd 3 - 0 Crystal Palace

Young gun Ross Eames plots Barnet's rise after different path to the dugout

No one can doubt that Ross Eames is a man with an eye for detail. When the Telegraph photographer asks the Barnet head coach to pose for pictures in front of the magnetic tactics board in his office, on which the starting line-up for his team’s League Two encounter with Swindon Town is carefully laid out in their positions, he springs up and rapidly re-arranges the formation.  Which suggests he is concerned that his rival manager might look at the picture in order to glean information about how Barnet intend to play the match. “Well, I know I would,” he smiles. “Every time.” Eames is an unusual presence on the touchline of a Football League club. For a start, at 32, he is younger than three members of the Barnet first-team squad. Moreover, unlike them, he has never played the game beyond turning out for his school team. An international gymnast in his youth (though due to dodgy knees he has not done a standing somersault for 10 years), he studied sports coaching at university before rapidly making his way up through football’s academy system. After a brief spell as caretaker manager in 2016, he found himself placed in permanent charge of Barnet in May. It is some progress. Not that he sees himself as representing an advance guard for the new way. It's been a tough start to the season for Eames and Barnet, they've not won in five league and cup games, including a 1-0 Carabao Cup defeat at Brighton Credit: Gareth Fuller/PA “I think this old school/new school thing is a myth,” he says. “There’s loads of different ways to skin a cat. The way I do things suits me; for someone else it might not work. Yeah, my background’s different. But at the end of the day it’s not about me. It’s about making this club a success. The direction you come from in achieving that is irrelevant. As long as you do.” A hint of the way Eames does things is evident in the list of fines pinned to the wall outside the manager’s office at the club’s smart new Hive stadium. There are dozens of edicts, ranging from “eating in the physio’s room: £5” to “not doing a sit and reach test: £10”, all of which imply he expects high standards of personal responsibility from his players. Not least in the way they perform on the pitch. “The biggest thing for me is every player has to work hard, battle to win first and second balls,” he says. “When they have possession, then I do like my teams to play. But how they play depends on the moment. If we can’t play round then we play through and if we can’t play through then we play over the top. My philosophy is very simple: don’t over-complicate.” Eames is a big admirer of former Argentina boss Marcelo Bielsa, currently coach at Lille Credit: Ricardo Mazalan/AP Like Mauricio Pochettino, working just down the road at Wembley, Eames admits to being an avid admirer of the Argentine coach, Marcelo Bielsa. “I really like the way his teams press, the approach he has to suffocate opponents in their own half,” he says. “And we’re on the right path here. We played Swansea in pre-season and really pushed them, didn’t give them an inch.” Although he has not yet followed his tactical mentor’s habit of four-hour press conferences (“I prefer to keep that side of things as brief as possible,” he smiles) he has put in place a Bielsa-style regime at Barnet, out on the training pitch every day, working relentlessly on team shape and tactical flexibility.  In truth, it is a methodology that has yet to translate to consistent success: including cup ties, Barnet have lost their past four fixtures.  “Really tight games, three 1-0 defeats, two of the losses against higher-league opposition,” he says. “But no doubt it’s been a tough couple of weeks. You have to learn from it. There’s always a way to make it better.” Aged 32, Eames is younger than three of his first-team squad Credit: Geoff Pugh One thing he has not done in the run of defeats is shout at his players. That, he says, would be wholly counter-productive. “I am a thinker, very obsessive about how I want things done, not someone to go in and rant and rave,” he says. “I can be authoritative, yeah. But for me the most important quality is clarity: get your message across quickly and clearly. While you need to make sure it’s honest, the tone of the feedback needs to be sensitive to the player. It doesn’t work if all you have is the hairdryer.” He appreciates, however, that he needs to return to winning ways quickly. As is demonstrated in the pictures of Neymar, Mesut Ozil and David Luiz photographed outside the main entrance that decorate the walls of the Starbucks franchise in the stadium, this is not a club these days lacking in ambition. “People think of Barnet as Underhill, Stan Flashman, Barry Fry, all that,” Eames says. “Sure, it’s a club full of history, but now we’re evolving. Look around you. Everything we have here is Championship standard. Brazil, Germany, Sweden have all trained here before playing at Wembley.  “The only way we can go is up, what the chairman has created here in terms of facilities and squad, there’s no excuses.” And the young, cerebral, career coach pauses for a moment before adding: “Doesn’t matter what my background is, if I don’t get the best out of this I’ll have failed, no doubt about that.” England players from the lower leagues . . .  

Young gun Ross Eames plots Barnet's rise after different path to the dugout

No one can doubt that Ross Eames is a man with an eye for detail. When the Telegraph photographer asks the Barnet head coach to pose for pictures in front of the magnetic tactics board in his office, on which the starting line-up for his team’s League Two encounter with Swindon Town is carefully laid out in their positions, he springs up and rapidly re-arranges the formation.  Which suggests he is concerned that his rival manager might look at the picture in order to glean information about how Barnet intend to play the match. “Well, I know I would,” he smiles. “Every time.” Eames is an unusual presence on the touchline of a Football League club. For a start, at 32, he is younger than three members of the Barnet first-team squad. Moreover, unlike them, he has never played the game beyond turning out for his school team. An international gymnast in his youth (though due to dodgy knees he has not done a standing somersault for 10 years), he studied sports coaching at university before rapidly making his way up through football’s academy system. After a brief spell as caretaker manager in 2016, he found himself placed in permanent charge of Barnet in May. It is some progress. Not that he sees himself as representing an advance guard for the new way. It's been a tough start to the season for Eames and Barnet, they've not won in five league and cup games, including a 1-0 Carabao Cup defeat at Brighton Credit: Gareth Fuller/PA “I think this old school/new school thing is a myth,” he says. “There’s loads of different ways to skin a cat. The way I do things suits me; for someone else it might not work. Yeah, my background’s different. But at the end of the day it’s not about me. It’s about making this club a success. The direction you come from in achieving that is irrelevant. As long as you do.” A hint of the way Eames does things is evident in the list of fines pinned to the wall outside the manager’s office at the club’s smart new Hive stadium. There are dozens of edicts, ranging from “eating in the physio’s room: £5” to “not doing a sit and reach test: £10”, all of which imply he expects high standards of personal responsibility from his players. Not least in the way they perform on the pitch. “The biggest thing for me is every player has to work hard, battle to win first and second balls,” he says. “When they have possession, then I do like my teams to play. But how they play depends on the moment. If we can’t play round then we play through and if we can’t play through then we play over the top. My philosophy is very simple: don’t over-complicate.” Eames is a big admirer of former Argentina boss Marcelo Bielsa, currently coach at Lille Credit: Ricardo Mazalan/AP Like Mauricio Pochettino, working just down the road at Wembley, Eames admits to being an avid admirer of the Argentine coach, Marcelo Bielsa. “I really like the way his teams press, the approach he has to suffocate opponents in their own half,” he says. “And we’re on the right path here. We played Swansea in pre-season and really pushed them, didn’t give them an inch.” Although he has not yet followed his tactical mentor’s habit of four-hour press conferences (“I prefer to keep that side of things as brief as possible,” he smiles) he has put in place a Bielsa-style regime at Barnet, out on the training pitch every day, working relentlessly on team shape and tactical flexibility.  In truth, it is a methodology that has yet to translate to consistent success: including cup ties, Barnet have lost their past four fixtures.  “Really tight games, three 1-0 defeats, two of the losses against higher-league opposition,” he says. “But no doubt it’s been a tough couple of weeks. You have to learn from it. There’s always a way to make it better.” Aged 32, Eames is younger than three of his first-team squad Credit: Geoff Pugh One thing he has not done in the run of defeats is shout at his players. That, he says, would be wholly counter-productive. “I am a thinker, very obsessive about how I want things done, not someone to go in and rant and rave,” he says. “I can be authoritative, yeah. But for me the most important quality is clarity: get your message across quickly and clearly. While you need to make sure it’s honest, the tone of the feedback needs to be sensitive to the player. It doesn’t work if all you have is the hairdryer.” He appreciates, however, that he needs to return to winning ways quickly. As is demonstrated in the pictures of Neymar, Mesut Ozil and David Luiz photographed outside the main entrance that decorate the walls of the Starbucks franchise in the stadium, this is not a club these days lacking in ambition. “People think of Barnet as Underhill, Stan Flashman, Barry Fry, all that,” Eames says. “Sure, it’s a club full of history, but now we’re evolving. Look around you. Everything we have here is Championship standard. Brazil, Germany, Sweden have all trained here before playing at Wembley.  “The only way we can go is up, what the chairman has created here in terms of facilities and squad, there’s no excuses.” And the young, cerebral, career coach pauses for a moment before adding: “Doesn’t matter what my background is, if I don’t get the best out of this I’ll have failed, no doubt about that.” England players from the lower leagues . . .  

Young gun Ross Eames plots Barnet's rise after different path to the dugout

No one can doubt that Ross Eames is a man with an eye for detail. When the Telegraph photographer asks the Barnet head coach to pose for pictures in front of the magnetic tactics board in his office, on which the starting line-up for his team’s League Two encounter with Swindon Town is carefully laid out in their positions, he springs up and rapidly re-arranges the formation.  Which suggests he is concerned that his rival manager might look at the picture in order to glean information about how Barnet intend to play the match. “Well, I know I would,” he smiles. “Every time.” Eames is an unusual presence on the touchline of a Football League club. For a start, at 32, he is younger than three members of the Barnet first-team squad. Moreover, unlike them, he has never played the game beyond turning out for his school team. An international gymnast in his youth (though due to dodgy knees he has not done a standing somersault for 10 years), he studied sports coaching at university before rapidly making his way up through football’s academy system. After a brief spell as caretaker manager in 2016, he found himself placed in permanent charge of Barnet in May. It is some progress. Not that he sees himself as representing an advance guard for the new way. It's been a tough start to the season for Eames and Barnet, they've not won in five league and cup games, including a 1-0 Carabao Cup defeat at Brighton Credit: Gareth Fuller/PA “I think this old school/new school thing is a myth,” he says. “There’s loads of different ways to skin a cat. The way I do things suits me; for someone else it might not work. Yeah, my background’s different. But at the end of the day it’s not about me. It’s about making this club a success. The direction you come from in achieving that is irrelevant. As long as you do.” A hint of the way Eames does things is evident in the list of fines pinned to the wall outside the manager’s office at the club’s smart new Hive stadium. There are dozens of edicts, ranging from “eating in the physio’s room: £5” to “not doing a sit and reach test: £10”, all of which imply he expects high standards of personal responsibility from his players. Not least in the way they perform on the pitch. “The biggest thing for me is every player has to work hard, battle to win first and second balls,” he says. “When they have possession, then I do like my teams to play. But how they play depends on the moment. If we can’t play round then we play through and if we can’t play through then we play over the top. My philosophy is very simple: don’t over-complicate.” Eames is a big admirer of former Argentina boss Marcelo Bielsa, currently coach at Lille Credit: Ricardo Mazalan/AP Like Mauricio Pochettino, working just down the road at Wembley, Eames admits to being an avid admirer of the Argentine coach, Marcelo Bielsa. “I really like the way his teams press, the approach he has to suffocate opponents in their own half,” he says. “And we’re on the right path here. We played Swansea in pre-season and really pushed them, didn’t give them an inch.” Although he has not yet followed his tactical mentor’s habit of four-hour press conferences (“I prefer to keep that side of things as brief as possible,” he smiles) he has put in place a Bielsa-style regime at Barnet, out on the training pitch every day, working relentlessly on team shape and tactical flexibility.  In truth, it is a methodology that has yet to translate to consistent success: including cup ties, Barnet have lost their past four fixtures.  “Really tight games, three 1-0 defeats, two of the losses against higher-league opposition,” he says. “But no doubt it’s been a tough couple of weeks. You have to learn from it. There’s always a way to make it better.” Aged 32, Eames is younger than three of his first-team squad Credit: Geoff Pugh One thing he has not done in the run of defeats is shout at his players. That, he says, would be wholly counter-productive. “I am a thinker, very obsessive about how I want things done, not someone to go in and rant and rave,” he says. “I can be authoritative, yeah. But for me the most important quality is clarity: get your message across quickly and clearly. While you need to make sure it’s honest, the tone of the feedback needs to be sensitive to the player. It doesn’t work if all you have is the hairdryer.” He appreciates, however, that he needs to return to winning ways quickly. As is demonstrated in the pictures of Neymar, Mesut Ozil and David Luiz photographed outside the main entrance that decorate the walls of the Starbucks franchise in the stadium, this is not a club these days lacking in ambition. “People think of Barnet as Underhill, Stan Flashman, Barry Fry, all that,” Eames says. “Sure, it’s a club full of history, but now we’re evolving. Look around you. Everything we have here is Championship standard. Brazil, Germany, Sweden have all trained here before playing at Wembley.  “The only way we can go is up, what the chairman has created here in terms of facilities and squad, there’s no excuses.” And the young, cerebral, career coach pauses for a moment before adding: “Doesn’t matter what my background is, if I don’t get the best out of this I’ll have failed, no doubt about that.” England players from the lower leagues . . .  

Young gun Ross Eames plots Barnet's rise after different path to the dugout

No one can doubt that Ross Eames is a man with an eye for detail. When the Telegraph photographer asks the Barnet head coach to pose for pictures in front of the magnetic tactics board in his office, on which the starting line-up for his team’s League Two encounter with Swindon Town is carefully laid out in their positions, he springs up and rapidly re-arranges the formation.  Which suggests he is concerned that his rival manager might look at the picture in order to glean information about how Barnet intend to play the match. “Well, I know I would,” he smiles. “Every time.” Eames is an unusual presence on the touchline of a Football League club. For a start, at 32, he is younger than three members of the Barnet first-team squad. Moreover, unlike them, he has never played the game beyond turning out for his school team. An international gymnast in his youth (though due to dodgy knees he has not done a standing somersault for 10 years), he studied sports coaching at university before rapidly making his way up through football’s academy system. After a brief spell as caretaker manager in 2016, he found himself placed in permanent charge of Barnet in May. It is some progress. Not that he sees himself as representing an advance guard for the new way. It's been a tough start to the season for Eames and Barnet, they've not won in five league and cup games, including a 1-0 Carabao Cup defeat at Brighton Credit: Gareth Fuller/PA “I think this old school/new school thing is a myth,” he says. “There’s loads of different ways to skin a cat. The way I do things suits me; for someone else it might not work. Yeah, my background’s different. But at the end of the day it’s not about me. It’s about making this club a success. The direction you come from in achieving that is irrelevant. As long as you do.” A hint of the way Eames does things is evident in the list of fines pinned to the wall outside the manager’s office at the club’s smart new Hive stadium. There are dozens of edicts, ranging from “eating in the physio’s room: £5” to “not doing a sit and reach test: £10”, all of which imply he expects high standards of personal responsibility from his players. Not least in the way they perform on the pitch. “The biggest thing for me is every player has to work hard, battle to win first and second balls,” he says. “When they have possession, then I do like my teams to play. But how they play depends on the moment. If we can’t play round then we play through and if we can’t play through then we play over the top. My philosophy is very simple: don’t over-complicate.” Eames is a big admirer of former Argentina boss Marcelo Bielsa, currently coach at Lille Credit: Ricardo Mazalan/AP Like Mauricio Pochettino, working just down the road at Wembley, Eames admits to being an avid admirer of the Argentine coach, Marcelo Bielsa. “I really like the way his teams press, the approach he has to suffocate opponents in their own half,” he says. “And we’re on the right path here. We played Swansea in pre-season and really pushed them, didn’t give them an inch.” Although he has not yet followed his tactical mentor’s habit of four-hour press conferences (“I prefer to keep that side of things as brief as possible,” he smiles) he has put in place a Bielsa-style regime at Barnet, out on the training pitch every day, working relentlessly on team shape and tactical flexibility.  In truth, it is a methodology that has yet to translate to consistent success: including cup ties, Barnet have lost their past four fixtures.  “Really tight games, three 1-0 defeats, two of the losses against higher-league opposition,” he says. “But no doubt it’s been a tough couple of weeks. You have to learn from it. There’s always a way to make it better.” Aged 32, Eames is younger than three of his first-team squad Credit: Geoff Pugh One thing he has not done in the run of defeats is shout at his players. That, he says, would be wholly counter-productive. “I am a thinker, very obsessive about how I want things done, not someone to go in and rant and rave,” he says. “I can be authoritative, yeah. But for me the most important quality is clarity: get your message across quickly and clearly. While you need to make sure it’s honest, the tone of the feedback needs to be sensitive to the player. It doesn’t work if all you have is the hairdryer.” He appreciates, however, that he needs to return to winning ways quickly. As is demonstrated in the pictures of Neymar, Mesut Ozil and David Luiz photographed outside the main entrance that decorate the walls of the Starbucks franchise in the stadium, this is not a club these days lacking in ambition. “People think of Barnet as Underhill, Stan Flashman, Barry Fry, all that,” Eames says. “Sure, it’s a club full of history, but now we’re evolving. Look around you. Everything we have here is Championship standard. Brazil, Germany, Sweden have all trained here before playing at Wembley.  “The only way we can go is up, what the chairman has created here in terms of facilities and squad, there’s no excuses.” And the young, cerebral, career coach pauses for a moment before adding: “Doesn’t matter what my background is, if I don’t get the best out of this I’ll have failed, no doubt about that.” England players from the lower leagues . . .  

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