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Oh come on, the selectivity. Ferdinand is obviously not a c**t,and he obviously wasn't having sex, but his skin colour is something different. JT was highlighting the differnce between ferdinand and himself. Terry is a c**t a first class one, a nasty one. And he definitely needs f**king with a wire brush. Call ferdinand a f**king c**t, useless one maybe, he possibly would have said something back to JT.
<<blah blah fat bald idiot - what words should I take offence at>>
None, your kids love you. And as far as I know there is no one in the UK that has anything against fat bald idiots. Not the same if your skin colour isn't white.
But what then makes picking on someone's skin colour any worse than picking on any other aspect? What if I picked on their religion? Politics? Height? Weight?
If I call a single individual '....you blah blah fat blah' is that fatist or just me highlighting an aspect? It takes on a completely different meaning if you know I had published a manifesto advocating that all people over 10% overweight (based on my definition of overweight ) should be stopped from breeding.
To me racism is where you do something (or incite others with words to do something) against whatever group of people. Where a group is held back or put down in a way that affects their advancement. It involves the racist in actually believing that there is a fundamental difference between him and the other 'group' - not just pointing out the obvious difference. That 'difference' in the mind of the -ist has to make that group in some way inferior.
Human beings always latch onto differences to 1) simply classify people (is science being racist by having separate groups - or what about a census - how racist is that?) 2) To be used to damage 3) For humour (take differences out of humour and 99% of what all comedians say is now in some way 'ist').
Again, I repeat that I don't claim to know JT's mind (and I don't really want to) - but I would simply guess that he probably hasn't even thought it out or has a basic view of what a racist is and again was just using the term because he knew it would offend.
If I know someone who is red, fat, bald, gay and overly tall - and I know that they're obsessed by the fact that they have to wear glasses, then if I wanted to offend I was call the person '...blah blah speccy blah...'. I don't have anything against anyone/everyone who wears glasses per se, I just want to be abusive.
JT was abusive in the extreme. That is what should be stopped. IF JT hadn't used the black word - he would still have been offensive and that is what should be stopped IMHO.