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Liverpool, Tottenham and the battle for superiority

<span>Photograph: Clive Brunskill/AFP/Getty Images</span>
Photograph: Clive Brunskill/AFP/Getty Images

IT’S ABOUT MORE THAN JUST WINNING

Time was when fans of different clubs would bicker at great length about whose was the best, only for the teams in question to play against each and provide them with an answer. They were halcyon days, before heat maps, expected goals and green rectangles festooned with numbers, arrows and circles, the non-existence of which meant people were more or less happy to use the evidence of both the scoreboard and their own eyes to assess which of the two teams they were watching was better.

Of course that was then and this is now, and with debate still raging over which was the better team in Liverpool’s victory over Tottenham Hotspur long after the final whistle was blown, a daily football email could be forgiven for wondering why the two teams bothered playing each other at all. What, after all, is the point in two sets of players going toe to toe on the field of play, if doing so only serves to provoke, rather than settle debate over which of them is superior?

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Like many disputes before it, this one was prompted by comments made by José Mourinho, specifically his post-match claim that “the better team lost”. It is an arguably spurious view Liverpool fans greeted with post-match apoplexy on their Social Media Disgrace Twitter accounts, despite the cold-eyed and completely unjaundiced manner with which they usually greet any opinions that might be considered even mildly critical of their team or its glorious leader. In stark contrast, Spurs fans were quick to endorse their manager’s view, pointing out that despite having 0.00000001% of possession, their team created more clear-cut chances and would have won comfortably if: a) they’d scored more than one of them; b) hadn’t fallen victim to a fluke deflection; and c) had bothered keeping tabs on Bobby Firmino for that late corner.

Valid points on both sides of this sophisticated debate then, The Fiver is sure you’ll agree. It is an argument that looks set to rumble tediously on until the season ends. And if, as seems quite likely, one of these teams goes on to win the title, then and only then will we know which of them is the better. Except we won’t know, because if Wednesday night’s frothing internet frenzy showed us nothing else, it’s that we have now reached a point of absurdity where teams attempting to decide superiority on the football pitch is merely the prelude to a series of far more unseemly squabbles elsewhere.

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